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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

DT got off lightly so far with the Trump University court cases. But there are others pending.
However some of the TU documents have been made public, and it makes for unpleasant reading:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...estate-courses


"This shows someone who was absolutely shameless in his willingness to lie to people"
Eric Schneiderman (NY attorney general)

Well, I suppose this supports the notion that he just lied to the entire US electorate too.
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DT got off lightly so far with the Trump University court cases. But there are others pending.
However some of the TU documents have been made public, and it makes for unpleasant reading:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...estate-courses


"This shows someone who was absolutely shameless in his willingness to lie to people"
Eric Schneiderman (NY attorney general)

Well, I suppose this supports the notion that he just lied to the entire US electorate too.
Isn't this over 6 months old?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

After reading the past couple of pages, I want to weigh in a little on the need for change that its claimed the United States needs.

I will agree that change in terms of government was needed. The issue is, Trump will probably bring very little change to said government. Thus far, he's done nothing but surround himself with career politicians, the very same he said need to get out of Washington. A few of Obama's plans that he said needed to be eliminated (Iran Deal, and Affordable Care Act at least) he said he's not really going to change, just review and make amendments as needed. And, with the past election, his political party (who has spent 8 years essentially hindering or mutilating most of what Obama has wanted to get done) got majority in the House and Senate. Essentially, keeping the same people who are responsible for a stagnant government in place.

In terms of economic policy, he does plan to change that. However, his plan to change it was proven to not work, and just exacerbated the income inequality between upper and middle class, and it still hasn't been rectified. Most economists have stated all his tax plan will do is add a lot more to the debt. Furthermore, it will continue to widen the income gap. Putting more money towards infrastructure is a good idea, but he doesn't have a place for that money to come from. Essentially, under Obama, the government was becoming more of an entity that employs people, and funnels money between different people to those in need of it; Trump's plan just funnels money to the top, and hopes it comes back down. And, being someone who has made quite a bit money, and who has then avoided paying people who have done work for him in order to keep said money, he knows that his plan won't result in more money going to the middle and lower class.

His foreign policy is something I view as being overly detrimental to the United States. The whole thought of a border wall is ridiculous, and expensive to the point where it's not feasible. His "extreme vetting" plan I imagine is going to just cost a bunch more money since it will require more extensive investigations into people (not to mention, I personally have a fundamentally different view on how to handle the refugee problem in the United States). His relationship with Putin is worrisome to me, but I honestly don't know enough about Putin's foreign policy other than the stuff going on the Ukraine and Mosul, which those are the basis for my fear as I disagree with how he's handled/is handling both situations. Thus far, Trump's foreign policy doesn't seem that good from an international viewpoint, domestic viewpoint, or economic viewpoint.

Also, as an aside, many people on the left in the United States are worried about his presidency due to the Supreme Court judge aspect. He'll be able to appoint anywhere from between 1 to probably 4 judges, which can shape the United States social policy for decades. To quickly address this here, he also stated he was going to leave marriage equality in the United States where it is, as the Supreme Court had ruled on it, which is something many of Trump and Pence's supporters were in favor of getting abolished.

However, I should state that I hope he will be a good President. I don't think he will be though, too many of his plans, policies, and goals seem to be in direct conflict of what has worked, and has been improving the United States. But, it's hard to tell what he will actually do, as he constantly goes back on forth and nearly every issue, and has already stated he's doing things completely against what he said he'd do when running. But, until proven otherwise, I assume that what he claimed he wanted to do is what he actually plans to do.

So, back to the original point, yes the United States needs change, but I don't think Trump will bring about good change. Clinton would have essentially been 4 more years of Obama as long as Republicans still controlled the House and Senate. The things that need to be changed Trump isn't going to change, and the things that have been doing well are things he wants to change; this shouldn't be done while the United States is on the path upwards. The United States could have had 4 more years of the same trend essentially, then opted for going for someone who is going to obviously shake things up for the better. Not every change is good change.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

He hasn't stepped into office yet, yet there has been a shift in mood in the country already. There is renewed optimism. Watching the stock market and gauging the mood, it feels like the 90's again. Its temporal, and moods are fickle, but I got a bump from that.

We really have to wait and see what he does. He certainly has an opportunity with a fairly blank sheet of paper to start with, as he ran fairly independent of his party. I'm not expecting him to follow the normal script.

As for what some people may feel about him, well, I'm not sure it is very important in the whole scheme of things. I don't think anyone really cares, to be honest. And its not like Trump is doing this all by himself either, the whole country has to mobilise. As it does, with or without him, I'm fairly confident it would be freakin great.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It's fascinating how all those who can't accept Trump as president said they'd move to Canada. And not Mexico.
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Old 22.11.2016, 09:13
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

"Reinstating A Muslim Registry Is Literally At The Top Of Kris Kobach’s Agenda For Trump Administration"
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...g-firing-squad

So, in an off-the-record meeting, he chewed the media for being biased, but Conway says this:

"No, that's not true at all," she said on Bloomberg Politics' 'With All Due Respect." "I sat right to his left. He did not explode in anger. By the way, it's an off-the-record meeting so whoever said that and mischaracterized it should think twice." Seriously?

Now there are rumours of a leak fromo his camp, and some say it's him. Like Phos said: "and he hasn't stepped into office yet". Bring the popcorn, and tons of it.
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It's fascinating how all those who can't accept Trump as president said they'd move to Canada. And not Mexico.
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It's fascinating how all those who can't accept Trump as president said they'd move to Canada. And not Mexico.
Why would they move to Mexico?

Trump's first plans.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38059623
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Had a quick chat with the Trumpster last night - mainly around border control. How does the DRK prevent people from neighbouring countries crossing the border and stealing jobs from the hard working 12 year old DRK prostitutes.

Mines - lots of them.

They're out of fashion, and sure there are UN resolutions against them, but hey if you're going to break UN resolutions on torture of prisoners and under age prostitution - breaking one for using mines along your border is the least of your worries.

And guard tower - lots of them - with lots of guns - big guns - with lots and lots of bullets.

At this point he said he had to drop as he said he needed to call the Governor of Alabama as he just an idea of how to solve the unemployment problem.

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Old 22.11.2016, 09:29
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It's fascinating how all those who can't accept Trump as president said they'd move to Canada. And not Mexico.
A better question is when are they leaving? Sadiq Khan invited them all to London. They can drama queen each other there to their hearts content.
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Isn't this over 6 months old?
Hmm, like you mean the man has changed ethically in the last 6 months?
I don't think so, sunshine.
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... I'm fairly confident it would be freakin great.

It's quite telling that you have to repeat on almost every other post you make about Trump that you think everything is going to be great.

Who are you trying to convince exactly?
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38059623

Thoughts?

I thought the "for every new regulation two must be eliminated". I know this is a reductio ad absurdum, but I wonder if anyone has ever explained Zeno's paradox, or the mathematics of half lifes to him. There are a finite number of regulations... at some point he would presumably end up with the constitution, the regulation about halving existing regulations, and one more regulation: What if some new regulation is needed?
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I thought the "for every new regulation two must be eliminated". I know this is a reductio ad absurdum, but I wonder if anyone has ever explained Zeno's paradox, or the mathematics of half lifes to him. There are a finite number of regulations... at some point he would presumably end up with the constitution, the regulation about halving existing regulations, and one more regulation: What if some new regulation is needed?
It's like he's been reading some 1980s management for dummies book.

"New broom, clean sweep" where he makes changes for no reasons other than to show how important he is.
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It's quite telling that you have to repeat on almost every other post you make about Trump that you think everything is going to be great.

Who are you trying to convince exactly?
Himself obviously
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I thought the "for every new regulation two must be eliminated". I know this is a reductio ad absurdum, but I wonder if anyone has ever explained Zeno's paradox, or the mathematics of half lifes to him. There are a finite number of regulations... at some point he would presumably end up with the constitution, the regulation about halving existing regulations, and one more regulation: What if some new regulation is needed?
He would try to cram as many regulations as possible into long ramble-on sentences so that the total number of laws decreases while the amount of regulation increases.
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Old 22.11.2016, 11:02
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I thought the "for every new regulation two must be eliminated". I know this is a reductio ad absurdum, but I wonder if anyone has ever explained Zeno's paradox, or the mathematics of half lifes to him. There are a finite number of regulations... at some point he would presumably end up with the constitution, the regulation about halving existing regulations, and one more regulation: What if some new regulation is needed?
Somewhat ad absurdum take on the situation. About 80,000 pages of regulations are filed every year. The bottom line is there is too much, and it needs to be reduced.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trump Tweet of the Day:

Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

Is this true?
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