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I have yet to see Trump wilt in the face of attacks. There was one moment after the recorded video. Otherwise, he seems to bounce back and thrive off of them.
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That's actually interesting. So while he's acting out adinfantium, i suppose we need to take a look at what havoc he's creating in the background. Evil genius or cranky baby?
It obviously worked for the election campaign, as it gave him free publicity. He spent less than half Clinton spent. I don't see how much use it is right now. He ought to wait until he encounters considerable resistance from congress. He really should shut up until after gets his electoral votes.

I think he's battling the media, and he's wielding twitter as a weapon, to point that he doesn't need them as much as they think. Typical power move. His video speech yesterday went straight to the internet.
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Old 23.11.2016, 00:23
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President-elect Donald Trump’s charitable foundation has admitted to the IRS that it violated a legal prohibition against “self-dealing,” which bars nonprofit leaders from using their charity’s money to help themselves, their businesses or their families.

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Probably just an error completing the form not a real crime!
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Lots of subjective read and feeling into what is merely perceptional. I tend to be more of an objective realist, and understand people to be more pragmatic and rational with important matters. Trump is not actually stupid. His persona is merely being mischaracterised by those who don't agree with him. He's actually a very sharp and astute man.
No, Phos, you are obtuse and highly blinkered. You have managed to convince yourself that this man is worthy of trust and that he will do great work to assist the American people. Despite all the proof to the contrary.

There was a hypnosis thread on here, er, have you been practicing?
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eh, maybe more like Churchill in his projected persona.
Never in a million years.

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Evil genius or cranky baby?
Spoilt, self serving, pretentious brat.

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imagine that. trump won election and just copypastes the clinton program. left would still hate him
I've despised the man long before he entered politics. He's a spoilt brat who hasn't modified his behaviour at all with age and experience. He has zero dignity and zero respect.
He's a prick.


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Why don't they lock these people away-for a very long time

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/w...-14537538.html
Thank you omtatsat for finding a link to the disgusting video that I've just seen on the ITV 10 O'Clock News. But hey...there are people here who have no problem with that. They don't see any issue with it at all.
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No, Phos, you are obtuse and highly blinkered. You have managed to convince yourself that this man is worthy of trust and that he will do great work to assist the American people. Despite all the proof to the contrary.
What 'proof'? He's not even in office yet...
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

if his short tenure as President-elect is any indicator of future performance, the answer is a resounding "no".
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Old 23.11.2016, 07:26
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No, Phos, you are obtuse and highly blinkered. You have managed to convince yourself that this man is worthy of trust and that he will do great work to assist the American people. Despite all the proof to the contrary.

There was a hypnosis thread on here, er, have you been practicing?
Speaking of hypnosis, let me point out to you that the election is over, and he's going to be the president. There is no choice to be made at this point.
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Thank you omtatsat for finding a link to the disgusting video that I've just seen on the ITV 10 O'Clock News. But hey...there are people here who have no problem with that. They don't see any issue with it at all.
I almost spilled my coffee over that one...those imbeciles really exist? In America? Wow.
People don't see anything wrong here because this is exactly what they also think, that's why. They're perfectly fine with having a society of this type - they entertain the thought of being, just by birth, at the top of trophic chain.
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- they entertain the thought of being, just by birth, at the top of trophic chain.
Whereas anyone with a grain of common sense and even a rudimentary grasp of history, can only view these people as bottom feeders.

To give Trump his due, he has finally spoken out against this, and other such groups.

Just in case anyone missed Trump's tweets yesterday...

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...29194906038272

8 years eh? Hmmm....
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Old 23.11.2016, 09:55
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What 'proof'? He's not even in office yet...
Make of this what you will. But talking to Farage about those horrible plans to build a wind-farm, and talking to Macri about a stalled office building doesn't auger well if you think this man is going to put his country's interests before his own:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-aires-office

"Breaking his golf clubs in anger" - does that remind anyone of John McEnroe? What amazing self-control. (Shows in his Tweet fights).

Also, read about the disproportionate number of votes DT got in states using electronic voting systems:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ania-wisconsin

Interesting. What do you say, Phos? More cry-baby complaining on the part of sore losers, or a rather worrying indication of foul-play?

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Old 23.11.2016, 10:10
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Make of this what you will. But talking to Farage about those horrible plans to build a wind-farm, and talking to Macri about a stalled office building doesn't auger well if you think this man is going to put his country's interests before his own:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-aires-office

"Breaking his golf clubs in anger" - does that remind anyone of John McEnroe? What amazing self-control. (Shows in his Tweet fights).

Also, read about the disproportionate number of votes DT got in states using electronic voting systems:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ania-wisconsin

Interesting. What do you say, Phos? More cry-baby complaining on the part of sore losers, or a rather worrying indication of foul-play?
Well, you have a pretty low threshold of proof. Basically, if you suspect or fear it, it's true. I can't argue with that.

I read about that, and it doesn't surprise me. There are all kinds of desperate attempts to deny it. Although that looks like a longshot. I doubt Hillary will go after it at this point. I think she's still recuperating from the rebuke.
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Old 23.11.2016, 10:17
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Although that looks like a longshot. I doubt Hillary will go after it at this point. I think she's still recuperating from the rebuke.
She's not alone. If you read the article you will find that some very senior people are highly concerned about the integrity of the voting systems (regardless of the outcome). I think it will be taken further - it needs to be.

Regarding proof of DT's intentions:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/bu...arm-fight.html

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Well, you have a pretty low threshold of proof. Basically, if you suspect or fear it, it's true. I can't argue with that.
Beats your standard of proof hands down.
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He hasn't stepped into office yet, yet there has been a shift in mood in the country already. There is renewed optimism. Watching the stock market and gauging the mood, it feels like the 90's again. Its temporal, and moods are fickle, but I got a bump from that.
I've been back in the US since the election, in Chicago (urban/suburban blue) and Indiana (small town/suburban red).

I did not see too much optimism. I saw a lot of uncertainty and worry... from all sides.

Much of the worry seems to be that yes, it is indeed starting to feel like the 90s again. For the (sadly, in many cases former) middle class of the midwest, the 1990s are remembered for the shift towards government catering to Wall Street, corporate cronies, and the wealthy that led to the middle class slipping downward.

Sure the rise in the market means that some are partying like it’s 1999 - mostly the comfortable on both sides.

But from what I have seen, desperately-trying-to keep-a-grip on-the-middle-class Joe and Jane Average, who were excluded from the party back then, seems to be worried that the incoming administration’s actions in the last week signal that they likely will be excluded this time around, too.

What worried me most: The first few days post election everybody was talking their hearts out. By the end of my trip a subtle change - I was starting to see some self-censorship.
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Sure the rise in the market means that some are partying like it’s 1999 - mostly the comfortable on both sides.
Your posts in this thread are proving to be unique in reflecting the feedback I've been getting from friends in the US. I was woken on 10 November by this message from a very close friend in the US:

"Sorry. I really didn't want to be right in this. Certainly not this right. Holy s***"

That came from someone who made yet another killing on the stock exchange thanks to correctly predicting the mood of the people. We talked for several hours, and if were not for his desire to be at hand to care for his parents, he'd have packed and left for Australia that week.

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What worried me most: The first few days post election everybody was talking their hearts out. By the end of my trip a subtle change - I was starting to see some self-censorship.
Why do you feel that is?
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Much of the worry seems to be that yes, it is indeed starting to feel like the 90s again. For the (sadly, in many cases former) middle class of the midwest, the 1990s are remembered for the shift towards government catering to Wall Street, corporate cronies, and the wealthy that led to the middle class slipping downward.

Sure the rise in the market means that some are partying like it’s 1999 - mostly the comfortable on both sides.
Yes, I agree I wasn't comfortable with the markets behaving like the 90's. It seemed like they've learned nothing, and can miss this opportunity for change by getting high again. I'm more interested in fundamental changes, particularly the draining of the swamp, which is badly needed.

To be fair to the buffoon, he hasn't stepped into office yet, and this is his low -profile self as he awaits his electoral votes. He has though implemented a restriction of lobbying for 5 years and restrictions on foreign lobbying for his cabinet. The term limits is not up to him, but that is something to battle with congress.

Like I said, what we have here is an opportunity for change. He might snake out of it, we don't know yet. When he does, I would certainly be pissed about it myself. But at the moment, I don't see anything to get pissed about.

As for the optimism side, some think its the end of the world, but more mature people I know understand there are opportunities here.
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Add Frankenstein to the list of talents - forming people? Ok.
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as for the optimism side, some think its the end of the world, but the greedier people i know understand there are opportunities here.
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And racist nazis too, right? You see, I think your head is full, and I don't think you will neither convince anyone of anything, nor learn anything here.
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