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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

http://static.srcdn.com/wp-content/u...-White-Cat.jpg

Putin plotting to skew the election and get his orange puppet in? Son of said puppet already schmoozing with Putin's henchmen prior to election.
Hmm, interesting. I'm liking the plot.
Do-able, given the Russian cyber capabilities. And only three states needed tampering with ...

They probably thought:
i) they'd never get caught
ii) there'd be no money to finance a recount
iii) the Dems would be so demoralized, they wouldn't be able to get back up.

And now it's another candidate who picks up the torch. Rearguard Dems coming forward to push for an enquiry. All good. At the very least the integrity of the voting system will be reviewed for 2020.

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I always thought it was Mayor Daley.


https://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/classe...votequote.html
In my neighborhood the maxim was 'vote early, often, and through erternity'.

The local cemeteries always had an impressive turnout. Ah, Chicago - the city that works.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

The other thing that occurs to me:

Nate Silver says there is no discrepancy after adjusting for demographics. But, polling models totally missed the electoral vote distribution. Maybe a recount can also be used to check/improve the models. Or maybe polling needs to happen differently.

I believe polling still has its uses.
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I always thought it was Mayor Daley.


https://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/classe...votequote.html
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In my neighborhood the maxim was 'vote early, often, and through erternity'.

The local cemeteries always had an impressive turnout. Ah, Chicago - the city that works.

And Jimmy Hoffa, and Al Capone. I wonder how they voted in this election.

I know about Chicago style.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN WISCONSIN PRELIMINARY REPORT Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.

In the City of Baraboo, Sauk County, according to the latest numbers posted on official government websites, there were 8,390 ballots cast, and 6,923 registered voters, which equates to a voter turnout of 121.19%.

In the Village of Stockholm, Pepin County, voter turnout was 105.56% (57 ballots cast, 54 registered voters).

In the City of Wisconsin Dells, Sauk County, voter turnout was 102.30% (89 ballots cast, 87 registered voters).

In the Town of McKinley, Polk County, voter turnout was 100.00% (191 ballots cast, 191 registered voters. Nobody died or moved away. And everybody voted.
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THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN WISCONSIN PRELIMINARY REPORT Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.

In the City of Baraboo, Sauk County, according to the latest numbers posted on official government websites, there were 8,390 ballots cast, and 6,923 registered voters, which equates to a voter turnout of 121.19%.

In the Village of Stockholm, Pepin County, voter turnout was 105.56% (57 ballots cast, 54 registered voters).

In the City of Wisconsin Dells, Sauk County, voter turnout was 102.30% (89 ballots cast, 87 registered voters).

In the Town of McKinley, Polk County, voter turnout was 100.00% (191 ballots cast, 191 registered voters. Nobody died or moved away. And everybody voted.
Depending on how you do the math that means an average 7.26% Growth in just those 4 counties.

Growth is good, right?
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Old 24.11.2016, 22:05
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THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN WISCONSIN PRELIMINARY REPORT Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
You'd think with a PhD he'd clarify his "report" a bit. Then again you didn't provide a link so I'm going with the numbers you provided.

Wisconsin, like a handful of other states, allows voters to register on Election Day. So the numbers he's using for registered voters are only those that were registered prior to ED. As the Elections Commission's own website says:
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Taking a quick look at the City of Baraboo results, I'd like to know where he got his data. The Sauk County website shows 5,720 ballots cast for President, which is the highest number of any race (as usual). Not 8,390. The Elections Commission shows 6,932 registered voters prior to Election Day. Turnout of 82%, not including ED registrants.

Other numbers are well within reason if you allow for potential ED registrants.
City of Wisconsin Dells:
EC registered voters = 85
Sauk County results = 86

Village of Stokholm:
EC registered voters = 53
Pepin County results = 57

Town of McKinley:
EC registered voters = 189
Polk County results = 188
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Depending on how you do the math that means an average 7.26% Growth in just those 4 counties.

Growth is good, right?
An excellent turnout.
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THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN WISCONSIN PRELIMINARY REPORT Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.

In the City of Baraboo, Sauk County, according to the latest numbers posted on official government websites, there were 8,390 ballots cast, and 6,923 registered voters, which equates to a voter turnout of 121.19%.

In the Village of Stockholm, Pepin County, voter turnout was 105.56% (57 ballots cast, 54 registered voters).

In the City of Wisconsin Dells, Sauk County, voter turnout was 102.30% (89 ballots cast, 87 registered voters).

In the Town of McKinley, Polk County, voter turnout was 100.00% (191 ballots cast, 191 registered voters. Nobody died or moved away. And everybody voted.
Those Dem voters just won't let it go.

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As Alexander Hamilton writes in “The Federalist Papers,” the Constitution is designed to ensure “that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” The point of the Electoral College is to preserve “the sense of the people,”.

Given that HC has now won the popular vote AND given that DT has shown himself to be eminently unfit for office, I would say the Founding Fathers must be turning in their graves.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ings/94373872/
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Outagamie county, WISCONSIN:

https://twitter.com/LatishaOrtiz54/s...94295515000832

The blue is Appleton (paper only). The rest of the county is machine.

So HC only won in the precinct with paper voting. And some people are saying "it's just demographics".

I don't think so ...
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Outagamie county, WISCONSIN:

https://twitter.com/LatishaOrtiz54/s...94295515000832

The blue is Appleton (paper only). The rest of the county is machine.

So HC only won in the precinct with paper voting. And some people are saying "it's just demographics".

I don't think so ...


...As reported by @Latisha, so it must be true.
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...As reported by @Latisha, so it must be true.
Did you click through the four photos? It looked like a screenshot from a reliable source to me. It allegedly came from:

https://www.verifiedvoting.org

But don't feel obliged to address the issue, just try to disqualify the messenger (classic tactic, I believe US lawyers do it all the time).
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But don't feel obliged to address the issue, just try to disqualify the messenger (classic tactic, I believe US lawyers do it all the time).
Did you read #1067? Have the numbers been confirmed as definitive?
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Did you read #1067? Have the numbers been confirmed as definitive?
They will be soon. Stein now has $4.6m from crowd funding. Those three states are in for some serious checking.

WI, MI, PE.
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But don't feel obliged to address the issue, just try to disqualify the messenger (classic tactic, I believe US lawyers do it all the time).
with 'US lawyers' you mean hillary right?
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They will be soon. Stein now has $4.6m from crowd funding. Those three states are in for some serious checking.

WI, MI, PE.
Context, context, context.

My question was't about the recount but about the ability to register on election day and whether the number of registered voters include them all. Otherwise the numbers in these posts are useless.
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with 'US lawyers' you mean hillary right?
Actually, I was thinking of Trump's lawyers trying to disqualify all the women coming forward with accusations of sexual harassment.
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Actually, I was thinking of Trump's lawyers trying to disqualify all the women coming forward with accusations of sexual harassment.

And I was thinking accusations, innuendo, proximity and coincidence = proof and truth for some people.
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Context, context, context.

My question was't about the recount but about the ability to register on election day and whether the number of registered voters include them all. Otherwise the numbers in these posts are useless.
Not useless at all, fascinating in fact.
Take Hortonville, WI

Total ballots cast : 1516
Total ballots cast for President/VP : 1949
(of which DT got 1369)

I said nothing about voter registration. I'm looking at the raw data. Click through the screenshots Latisha posted on Twitter. Three other precincts have similar discrepancies. That's a lot of "human error".

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