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Old 28.11.2016, 11:14
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And I would like to apologise to my fellow Europeans for Nigel Farage?

Nigel Farage to ask Americans to 'forgive' British people who criticised Donald Trump, in US trip

Nigel Farage has announced plans to apologise to the American people on behalf of Britain for criticisms made of Donald Trump during his presidential campaign.

The interim Ukip leader said he would travel to the US at the end of the week in an effort to cement ties with Washington DC, after becoming the first British politician to meet the President-elect after his shock election victory at the beginning of the month.

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That's the most condescending, kiss ass thing I've ever heard of. He needs to watch Love Actually again to get his Brit pride back.
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Old 28.11.2016, 12:19
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Ah stop the nonsense. There have been scores of much worse and much better presidents
Scores?

Do tell, please name the 40 (or more) presidents (out of the 43 who have served to date) who were worse than Trump has so far indicated that he will be. Or just one, if you can.
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Old 28.11.2016, 12:36
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That's the most condescending, kiss ass thing I've ever heard of. He needs to watch Love Actually again to get his Brit pride back.
Before he starts trying to represent the UK Government perhaps he should start with something simple like, oooh, I don't know... winning an election?

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Do tell, please name the 40 (or more) presidents (out of the 43 who have served to date) who were worse than Trump has so far indicated that he will be. Or just one, if you can.
My problem is the logic Trump is using with regards to the WI recount.

He's well within his rights to be critical of the forces seeking the recount, but they are looking into it from a voting irregularity aspect and following the legal path laid down to address this concern rather than looking to overturn the result of the election. I believe it's extremely unlikely that the recount will change the result at all, but it's an excercise worth doing if there are concerns.


In this instance, I believe Trump would have done better to keep his own counsel, but instead, he's emptied fuel onto the flames and fanned them by countering with an 'unfounded' allegation reguarding the popular vote.


I fail to see the logic in his behaviour regarding this particular matter. He's turned a minor irritation into something bigger.
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Old 28.11.2016, 14:55
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I fail to see the logic in his behaviour regarding this particular matter. He's turned a minor irritation into something bigger.
It's an old conjuring trick. Create a diversion with your left hand so people don't see what your right hand is doing. Tony Blair did it all the time.

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Old 28.11.2016, 15:02
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Do tell, please name the 40 (or more) presidents (out of the 43 who have served to date) who were worse than Trump has so far indicated that he will be. Or just one, if you can.
Obama, Bush2, Bush1, Carter, Ford, ...

And that's just in my lifetime.

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Old 28.11.2016, 15:07
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Obama, Bush2, Bush1, Carter, Ford, ...

And that's just in my lifetime.

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You've only left a couple off that list, and many (most?) would rate Clinton below some on your list.

But I very much doubt that anyone would put Trump above any past president. Certainly not come 2021...

ETA: OK, maybe Harrison, but even then, only for lack of evidence!
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Old 28.11.2016, 15:14
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It's an old conjuring trick. Create a diversion with your left hand so people don't see what you're right hand is doing. Tony Blair did it all the time.
Precisely.

Though I'm not sure he's doing it in a calculating manner. He's probably just in one of his irrational, angry moods. Which he is in like five times a day, if Twitter is any indication.

Ugh. What a disgrace.

Blueangel, stop looking for logic in his behavior. There is none.
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Old 28.11.2016, 16:31
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Obama, Bush2, Bush1, Carter, Ford, ...

And that's just in my lifetime.

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Without knowing your age, does this mean that you rate Reagan, Clinton, Nixon, Johnson as better? JFK? Or am I adding years to you?

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You've only left a couple off that list, and many (most?) would rate Clinton below some on your list.
Bill's a funny one for me. He was economically good for the nation and he fully recognised the impending threat from Islamic extremism (USS Cole, etc), but his personality was flawed.

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Blueangel, stop looking for logic in his behavior. There is none.
There must be someone close enough to him who is able to point out that he's stirring a hornet's nest at the precise time when his nation need reassurance and steadiness. The people need to see Trump the stoic businessman, not Trump the erratic celebrity.
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Old 28.11.2016, 17:39
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There must be someone close enough to him who is able to point out that he's stirring a hornet's nest at the precise time when his nation need reassurance and steadiness. The people need to see Trump the stoic businessman, not Trump the erratic celebrity.
There is no one. Had there been anyone, he would have behaved differently all along, but he didn't. And my guess is he will continue to either not have anyone, or not listen to them. They, as in most his voters, also want to see nothing but the erratic celebrity, apparently.
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Old 28.11.2016, 18:19
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There must be someone close enough to him who is able to point out that he's stirring a hornet's nest at the precise time when his nation need reassurance and steadiness. The people need to see Trump the stoic businessman, not Trump the erratic celebrity.
Not anymore. Allegedly DT and KellyAnne have fallen out over her going rogue and shooting off her mouth about M Romney (unless it was a calculated move to shame MR, which some think it is).

So, no-one left to wrestle the Twitter account off him. And since he's enjoying the Supreme Emperor of the Free World rôle, unlikely that anyone will dare mention the fact that he has no clothes.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Trumps rants continue, now he is attacking CNN, generic wannbe journalist.
Did the President elect just use the word wannabe? did anyone notice, how limited his vocabulary is? How in the world will he measure up to othe heads of states?

What does DT have against journalists? Is there a newspaper or news channel that he even likes? I bet he will soon establish his own news channel, just to make sure that everything is reported just the way he likes it
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Without knowing your age, does this mean that you rate Reagan, Clinton, Nixon, Johnson as better? JFK? Or am I adding years to you?
Indeed.

I voted for Reagan.

And Clinton.

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Old 30.11.2016, 00:14
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Trumps rants continue, now he is attacking CNN, generic wannbe journalist.
Did the President elect just use the word wannabe? did anyone notice, how limited his vocabulary is? How in the world will he measure up to othe heads of states?

What does DT have against journalists? Is there a newspaper or news channel that he even likes? I bet he will soon establish his own news channel, just to make sure that everything is reported just the way he likes it
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So, no-one left to wrestle the Twitter account off him.
Even had Tom Bradby and the guests on 'Agenda' last night, debating who should take Trump's twitter account from him.

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Did the President elect just use the word wannabe? did anyone notice, how limited his vocabulary is? How in the world will he measure up to othe heads of states?

What does DT have against journalists? Is there a newspaper or news channel that he even likes? I bet he will soon establish his own news channel, just to make sure that everything is reported just the way he likes it
I think quite a few of us have noticed his vocabulary, and seeing as one of his bosom buddies is Murdoch, perhaps Trump will get his own Fox News channel.

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Scores?

Do tell, please name the 40 (or more) presidents (out of the 43 who have served to date) who were worse than Trump has so far indicated that he will be. Or just one, if you can.
How do you rate Trump when he hasn't even started yet? It will be quite easy for him to surpass Carter and Obama in his first 100 days.

We're expecting to see a decent growth rate in the US, and an opportunity to reset a lot of problematic relationships that are left behind. Like I said earlier, Trump has the potential to be one of the best US Presidents for the US, while one of the worse for other countries of the world, if he were to follow through with his America First doctrine.
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Old 01.12.2016, 11:51
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How do you rate Trump when he hasn't even started yet? It will be quite easy for him to surpass Carter and Obama in his first 100 days.

We're expecting to see a decent growth rate in the US, and an opportunity to reset a lot of problematic relationships that are left behind. Like I said earlier, Trump has the potential to be one of the best US Presidents for the US, while one of the worse for other countries of the world, if he were to follow through with his America First doctrine.
If Trump ends up serving a full term, I believe he will be remembered for handing world dominance to Russia. Let's cycle back here in 2020. Hopefully I'll be wrong, but sadly, I think the person most overjoyed by Trump's election is Putin. Way more than Trump himself, for sure.

I couldn't agree more with your highlighted statement, above.
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Old 01.12.2016, 11:58
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If Trump ends up serving a full term, I believe he will be remembered for handing world dominance to Russia. Let's cycle back here in 2020. Hopefully I'll be wrong, but sadly, I think the person most overjoyed by Trump's election is Putin. Way more than Trump himself, for sure.

I couldn't agree more with your highlighted statement, above.
I have to say that Russia is a great culture, society and country. And just as Americans are greater than Trump, so are Russians greater than Putin. This isn't really pissing contest between Putin and the rest of the world, its about cohabitation on the planet.

I do hope that Russians' lives are elevated as well as Americans. I have no hate for them whatsoever. I actually like them. I would be thrilled to see a decent and peaceful accord between Americans and the Russians that is mutually beneficial.

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I would be thrilled to see a decent and peaceful accord between Americans and the Russians that is mutually beneficial.
Exactly my point: there's no way that would happen with Trump. Putin will simply walk all over him.

And if you believe that the Russian people are bigger than Putin -- well, I don't think you understand Russian politics and the power that Putin wields.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

It's gets worse by the day! Now he has appointed a ex Goldman Sachs banker to be head of our treasury. The other people he is appointing have no experience at what they are about to be appointed to. It's a disaster!
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