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Old 10.11.2016, 17:23
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Ftfy.
hahaha---very good, next time though, can you bold the 'fixes', the comical effect has better emphasis.


Either way the policies of both can be accepted or shit on (much like the corporations).


But I will try hard with hope and belief that these will work and work for the better. Rose colored glasses on!


I really think they could be good points
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Yeah did think of that, but then wondered if it would look too odd. I can add that though.
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Old 10.11.2016, 17:51
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I was watching CNN this morning (yes, I know) and they were all abuzz with transition news - Trump and Obama will be meeting today at the White House.

Anyway, they were talking about likely cabinet members, and one of the commentators remarked that sub cabinet positions might be difficult to fill as so many Republicans refused to support Trump initially. But we'll see - when that cushy job comes calling, memories can be very short.


So all the sub cabinet employees have to be vetted, right - but what happens if the president wouldn't normally pass a security clearance. Guess it doesn't matter?

At this point in the cycle, the country comes together until they find something to argue about. Even Bernie Sanders said he would work with Trump if Trump is serious.

I think Trump intends to take his role in a less hands-on manner than other presidents, if I read correctly. It somewhat described a more Chancellor type of role. We'l have to see how he sets up his cabinet and management process. I assume he'll have many people on point he can fire if they fail to do a good job.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

How to you unify a country when you have behaved like a bully for years and years, and spent your whole electoral campaign being a bully and insulting ethnic minorities, Muslims, Mexicans, women, handicapped people, etc, etc, etc, who has boasted about not paying taxes making him 'smart'- asking his aides to beat the c*** out of anyone who dares heckle him, or shoot them even- and who refused to distance himself from the KKK, etc, etc.. How can we tell our children and grandchildren, daughters and grand-daughters in particular- to respect someone they have seen ranting and raving at the above on the news- how can we tell them to respect him now as 'Supreme leader' - many people won't be able to- and I really can't blame them.

Do you really think people will 'forget' and move on ... and you tell me I am na´ve !?!
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Old 10.11.2016, 18:13
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At this point in the cycle, the country comes together until they find something to argue about. Even Bernie Sanders said he would work with Trump if Trump is serious.
He added a few caveats, though...
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Do you really think people will 'forget' and move on ... and you tell me I am na´ve !?!
yes, people will always forget or more likely people will chose to ignore/overlook.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Not in my book, sorry.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Is he already curtailing press freedom?

"Trump not allowing coverage of his movements today, so we have no photo as in yrs past of Obamas & Trumps greeting each other at White House"

"For folks who care about press access. today is foreboding. No photo of Obama-Trump meeting. No travel pool info for Trump transition"


And by passing the mainstream media?

"Trump's list of potential picks for his cabinet has apparently been obtained by BuzzFeed News."
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/election-us-2016-37899679
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Is he already curtailing press freedom?

"Trump not allowing coverage of his movements today, so we have no photo as in yrs past of Obamas & Trumps greeting each other at White House"

"For folks who care about press access. today is foreboding. No photo of Obama-Trump meeting. No travel pool info for Trump transition"

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/election-us-2016-37899679
I doubt it. The lack of coverage of his movements may have been suggested by the secret service.

If I had pissed enough people off that they were burning effigys in the streets then I also wouldn't want people to look up my schedule online, or check exactly where I was with something as simple as a cellphone.

Of course, I would have taken care not to piss that many people off in the first place, but that might be one of the reasons why I'm not president elect.
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How to you unify a country when you have behaved like a bully for years and years, and spent your whole electoral campaign being a bully and insulting ethnic minorities, Muslims, Mexicans, women, handicapped people, etc, etc, etc, who has boasted about not paying taxes making him 'smart'- asking his aides to beat the c*** out of anyone who dares heckle him, or shoot them even- and who refused to distance himself from the KKK, etc, etc.. How can we tell our children and grandchildren, daughters and grand-daughters in particular- to respect someone they have seen ranting and raving at the above on the news- how can we tell them to respect him now as 'Supreme leader' - many people won't be able to- and I really can't blame them.

Do you really think people will 'forget' and move on ... and you tell me I am na´ve !?!
Since 65% of white men and 53% of white women, plus 30% of Latino/a and at least Ben Carson and I'm sure some Jews voted for him, I suspect he will find some uninsulted people. I see people on my FB feed saying we need to stop the hate and come together. La la la.

Anyway, the point is, some people are quite pleased and the rest of us will continue in our subversive ways till more evidence of his governing style appears.

Some people will forget, others won't have to, and for the rest, we sort of have to figure it out.

When Bush 2 was elected, the country was very polarized. 9/11 put a stop to that. One hopes we won't have to deal with something so awful this time.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

so we have the Bush situation all over - everybody underestimated him, nwo people protest like it would matter. half of US wanted emigrate right after Bush Jr got elected. after few weeks, nobody really cared anymore, life goes on, another war breaks out or some natural disaster will capture the news and heart of the people.

funny thing is, the blue-collar job people from rural regions who thought he is representing them couldn't be further from the truth - tax reforms which he proposes will give much more tax breaks to richest ones, punish single persons and actually poorest will pay something like 1% more on taxes. Billionaire which inherited and just expanded wealth, spoiled entitled brat with ego of the size of Kansas will actually care about anything but himself... right

The only thing that really worries me though, is how little he cares about environment - the damage to be done there can't be fixed easily in 4 years (or 8 I am afraid).
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Is he already curtailing press freedom?

"Trump not allowing coverage of his movements today, so we have no photo as in yrs past of Obamas & Trumps greeting each other at White House"

"For folks who care about press access. today is foreboding. No photo of Obama-Trump meeting. No travel pool info for Trump transition"


And by passing the mainstream media?

"Trump's list of potential picks for his cabinet has apparently been obtained by BuzzFeed News."
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/election-us-2016-37899679
Frankly, if he starts bypassing the mainstream media, I'd be a bit pleased. I don't like the idea that we fly around "journalists" (who are only journalists in the weakest sense of the word, since all they do is parrot presidential press releases) on Air Force 1. Let them use local staff wherever the president happens to be, the way the rest of us use our local staff rather than jetsetting around everywhere. Make the media work a bit again, and stop letting them feel like Washington DC royalty.
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I assume he'll have many people on point he can fire if they fail to do a good job.
I think he'll choose his cabinet by setting a group of candidates a task, like buying vegetables in the NY markets or something, then rejecting those who don't perform on a weekly basis. It'll take time, but he'll get the best people, really he will.
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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Some people take this politics nonsense far too seriously.

http://louderwithcrowder.com/higher-...ized-election/

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Since 65% of white men and 53% of white women, plus 30% of Latino/a and at least Ben Carson and I'm sure some Jews voted for him, I suspect he will find some uninsulted people.
Indeed.

If no women, or no Latinos, or no Jews, or no African Americans had voted for him, he wouldn't have won, the 'white man' vote was less than half of his total.

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Re: Will Trump be a Good President?

Arthur Miller 'View from the Bridge' - time to read again.

In the South of France, towns which were the real hubs of immigration are strong Front National stronholds, with many 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants voting for LePen. A very common phenomenon all over the world.
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Indeed.

If no women, or no Latinos, or no Jews, or no African Americans had voted for him, he wouldn't have won, the 'white man' vote was less than half of his total.

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And given that only 56% of the total voter population actually turned up to vote, that leaves him with something close to 23% as a white mandate.
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What planet are you on? Today people are far more censored for what they're "allowed" to say. There's a reason South Park came up with PC Principal last year.
I'd take Cartman over Trump. "Come sail away..."

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Just for clarification, are you a 'laughs out loud' lol, a 'lots of love' lol, or did you misspell your own name? Just asking...
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Make the media work a bit again
Make the Media Work Again!
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......funny thing is, the blue-collar job people from rural regions who thought he is representing them couldn't be further from the truth - tax reforms which he proposes will give much more tax breaks to richest ones, punish single persons and actually poorest will pay something like 1% more on taxes. Billionaire which inherited and just expanded wealth, spoiled entitled brat with ego of the size of Kansas will actually care about anything but himself... right

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Seriously? Are you just making this up as you go?

These points are absolutely incorrect!
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This is what he proposes. Simply put.

Anti-Trump people really try hard to sound stupid sometimes.

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