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Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

Swiss TV in German anthem blunder


German supporters at the match sang the official version of the anthem

Swiss television has made an embarrassing error during live coverage of the European Championship football match between Germany and Austria.
The national channel SRG ran subtitles to Germany's national anthem including the obsolete first verse - ignored since the fall of the Third Reich.
"Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles" or "Germany, Germany above everything", was popular under the Nazis' rule.
The third verse, on its own, became the anthem following unification in 1990.
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The third verse, which begins "unity and justice and liberty for the German fatherland", was sung by Germans in the west of the country after World War II.

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Old 19.06.2008, 08:53
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Re: Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

It's amazing how many people still make this mistake.

As an aside, it is important to note that the connotations raised by the first verse these days (i.e. those appropriated by the Nazis) are not the same as those intended when the text was written in the 18th century.
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Old 19.06.2008, 15:59
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Re: Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

The first verse thing came up on 'QI' (BBC TV show) a short while back.

Looks like they weren't kidding. Why am I not surprised that this 'blunder' could happen on Swiss TV
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Old 19.06.2008, 16:07
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Re: Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

Blick Am Abend blew it out of proportion last night (not a surprise) - they wrote how the first verse is illegal and whatever else in Germany. Baloney ... it's just the commonly accepted practice to sing the third stanza at public occassions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied

Back in 1954 at the Miracle of Bern most spectators happily sung the first stanza anyway.

And the SF television screw-up already made it to Wikipedia. Dang.
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Old 19.06.2008, 16:10
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Re: Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

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...The third verse, on its own, became the anthem following unification in 1990. ...
BBC got it wrong, too. It was 1952, not 1990. Oh well ...

Letters between Chancellor Adenauer and President Heuss exchanged here.
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Old 19.06.2008, 17:00
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Re: Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

I also noticed the choice of the "International Affairs/Politics" forum. Have the Germans given a protest note to the Swiss ambassador yet?
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Re: Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

They don't have reason to complain anymore: The German TV station ARD has its own problem with a national symbol.



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Re: Swiss TV in German anthem blunder

Ouch. You'd expect German TV to get the German flag right.
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