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18.10.2008, 16:47
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Hypothetically speaking, how do you feel a world war would affect our lives in Switzerland?
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18.10.2008, 16:54
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| | | Re: World War III and Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Hypothetically speaking, how do you feel a world war would affect our lives in Switzerland? | | | | | Nuclea (Bush accent) or non nuclear war?  (Palin wink)
Need more info about the countries involved. If we are playing e-war games then might as well play it properly.
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18.10.2008, 17:03
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OK. Let's say the US attacks Iran with a nuclear weapon. Next thing we know, China, Russia and the EU are all involved. What happens to those of us living in Switzerland. What will be the impact?
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18.10.2008, 17:07
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Where is the nearest Bunker now ... ??? 
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18.10.2008, 17:10
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We are just moving into a new house but I don't think there is one there. Most houses we looked at did have one.
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18.10.2008, 17:14
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| | | Re: World War III and Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | OK. Let's say the US attacks Iran with a nuclear weapon. Next thing we know, China, Russia and the EU are all involved. What happens to those of us living in Switzerland. What will be the impact? | | | | | Personally I won't be impacted as I am designed to handle hell fire  It sure would be lonely as all you lot would be toast. I will be left with cockroaches. I would welcome you in hell but you lot are such little angels! I guess you would prefer going to that other place called heaven.
Ok if US attacks Iran. Oil prices will get hit straight away. Specially if Iran succeeds in causing major problems in strait of Hormuz. Prices of goods will shoot up.
I doubt China and Russia would directly get involved. If we take your assumption of say Russia /China/Iran Vs USA/EU then we are all toast.....even me | 
18.10.2008, 17:22
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What do mean with "impact in Switzerland" Lynn ? Do you mean military involvement ?? ... or do you mean will we be blown away? ...
and besides ... why would it be the US starting the mess ???
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18.10.2008, 17:24
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What about the Swiss food supply? I suppose we could survive on chocolate and cheese for a long, long time. I know I could.
But seriously, the whole world economy would crumble (or it has already, hasn't it??). What about our safety here in CH? I'm sure CH would not get involved in the war and would remain neutral. I don't think it would get attacked by another country so we're pretty safe in that regard. But what is the worst that could happen? (Other than all of us going to hell??)
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18.10.2008, 17:27
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This is a hypothetical situation so somebody has to start it. It could be China attacking Belarus.
I guess I'm interested in hearing how you guys think a world war would change our lives. Food to eat? Oil? Safety? Travel? Etc.
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18.10.2008, 17:34
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| | | Re: World War III and Switzerland | Quote: |  | | | What about the Swiss food supply? I suppose we could survive on chocolate and cheese for a long, long time. I know I could. | | | | | Cheese and chocolate can feed you only so long. Where do you think ingredients for chocolate come from? You will have gun touting militias on the Swiss street when resources get scarce. It will be get tribal and brutal out on the streets. Think Hyenas. People who stand out as foreigners will get ripped off first. My imagination is really wild. I can go on forever
P.S- In general I am anti-gun kind of person but in a situation like that I sure would want to have one.
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| | | Re: World War III and Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | P.S- In general I am anti-gun kind of person but in a situation like that I sure would want to have one. | | | | | In a situation like that you'd likely need a gun as just about every household has one, no?
Can you really see things getting that bad or are you just being 'devilish'?
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18.10.2008, 17:53
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| | | Re: World War III and Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | In a situation like that you'd likely need a gun as just about every household has one, no? | | | | | Non-Swiss are gun less and most Swiss have guns | Quote: |  | | | Can you really see things getting that bad or are you just being 'devilish'? | | | | | When is the baby due?  You sound like someone who is worried about their kid.
Off course things can get that bad. Things are already that bad in some parts of the world. We are not at that point in western Europe but that time will come one day. Most probably in our life time.
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| | | Re: World War III and Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | When is the baby due? You sound like someone who is worried about their kid. | | | | | The "baby" was born 11 years ago, but of course, I'm still worried. But this is a hypothetical situation. | 
18.10.2008, 18:14
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That sounds just like those movies projecting the world in 2024 and beyond, very wild, ugly, the heroes, at least one, and all the bla bla with a whee bit of a love story in it, to make it all bearable to watch ...  .... It will be get tribal and brutal out on the streets. Think Hyenas. People who stand out as foreigners will get ripped off first. My imagination is really wild. I can keep go on forever | 
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I'd guess if there is another big war, it'll be within twenty years and involve Russia throwing its weight around regarding its now NATO-friendly neighbours. I get the feeling Georgia was just testing the waters...
If there is a big shift in energy production away from oil and gas, this will hit Russia fairly hard and lose them a lot of leverage over Europe and they won't take losing face like that lightly.
If they went all Soviet-like, then there's a better than evens chance that Switzerland would be invaded as there isn't much point in having them as a negotiating power, unlike in WW2.
Anyhoo, it doesn't seem as likely as it did a little while ago as I think Russia really did underestimate how p***ed off everyone got over Georgia, so maybe they'll try being a bit more grown up about it now.
Regarding a war with China, I reckon it wouldn't be that likely unless they need something spectacular to take attention away from unrest at home, say if some of the unsettled regions started getting uppity at the same time.
So, what would happen to us lot here? Well, it depends. If it's a nuclear war, a lot would depend on whether Switzerland is targeted or not. If it is, then there's not that much you could do until it happens apart from stockpiling food, water, plastic bags, etc. A best-case scenario is that it happens in the autumn after the crops have been harvested and put under cover. Then there might be enough to eat for a larger number of survivors. If it happens in the Spring, it'll get hungry... There'll be some attempt at martial law to start with, but as time goes on, communities of survivors will become more isolated and for some time, society will be primarily agricultural and feudal. With a few exceptions, things will be fairly medieval for some time. As foreigner's, we'll probably be left to starve unless you're well integrated and your neighbours like you.
If it's non-nuclear, then all sorts can happen. It depends on whether the invading power has any regard for human rights and the Geneva Convention. It also depends how political the invading power is. If it's the Russians, then you might find some groups of politically-minded people disappear. The 1940 Blitzkreig showed the effectiveness of attacking civilians in slowing up enemy troops in coming to meet your forces by flooding the roads with refugees.
I'm buying a tin hat tomorrow...
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18.10.2008, 19:05
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I don't mean to interrup but imagining another war is quite easy as we have tons of history and present to give us glimpses pf how it would be like. But I'd really like to know if anyone can imagine no wars whatsoever in any spot in the world. Let's say tomorrow we wake up and there's no war or conflict. Everybody is so nice, generous, kind,....wold it impact you in any way or will it be just another day...
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18.10.2008, 19:15
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Maybe I got it all wrong but it was Georgia that was playing with fire and our media painted one sided propaganda that made Russians look super bad.
Personally I don't think Russia will start a third world war as we have Palin keeping a watchful eye on them (with her telescopic view rifle).
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18.10.2008, 19:29
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18.10.2008, 19:30
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| | | Re: World War III and Switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | Maybe I got it all wrong but it was Georgia that was playing with fire and our media painted one sided propaganda that made Russians look super bad.
Personally I don't think Russia will start a third world war as we have Palin keeping a watchful eye on them (with her telescopic view rifle). | | | | | Well, it was done to death in the other thread about Georgia, but you can't claim Russia didn't enter a sovereign country and attack it.
Anyhoo, I wouldn't be that surprised if Russia tried a few more low-level things like that again, but I can't see them going for an all-out war with NATO. They might have a bit more money for their forces now, but I don't reckon it likely they could get the manpower like they could under the USSR. If they did start a big conscription drive, then that would put other nations on the alert.
Anyhoo, a lot of the shine went off of their Charlie-big-potatoes act when 40 % of the Russian share value went in a puff of smoke straight afterwards...
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