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Old 27.03.2013, 17:52
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Re: Knox case...

Of course Knox is guilty, and if the Italians were a little more competent, the forensic evidence would have proven this to be the case beyond reasonable doubt. Moreover, she has made a pile from writing her memoirs - who says crime doesn't pay?
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Old 28.04.2013, 11:22
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Re: Knox case...

Guede was convicted and jailed for 16 years. Knox and Sollecito were convicted of murder and sexual violence in December 2009 and jailed for 26 years and 25 years respectively. But in October 2011, the pair were freed on appeal after doubts were raised about the forensic evidence against them.

One of the key pieces of forensic evidence that helped to convict the pair in the first place was a kitchen knife found in Sollecito's kitchen, which was said to have Kercher's DNA on the blade.
But the DNA sample was tiny, and the appeal judge thought the evidence was unreliable, so he rejected a forensic scientist's suggestion to have it tested again.
"The sum of the two results, both unreliable… cannot give a reliable result," he wrote.
This was a mistake, according to mathematician Coralie Colmez.
"The thing with statistics and probability is that people feel it's intuitive," she says.
"But actually the mathematics tells you that if you have an unreliable test, you do it again and you can be a lot more certain of that answer. And it's not intuitive but a simple calculation will tell you that it's true."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22310186
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Old 29.04.2013, 12:51
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one of Amanda Knox's most vocal backers is attorney Anne Bremner, who has offered her counsel pro bono ...

The prosecution, she says, is most likely relying on a knife found at the house of Knox's then boyfriend and fellow accused Rafaelle Sollecito. That knife has Knox's DNA on the handle and what some forensic scientists say is Kercher's DNA on the tip. But Bremner dismisses the idea that it is the knife that killed Kercher: "They never found the murder weapon." Bremner claims that a bloody print on the bed linens conveys the shape of the actual murder weapon and that the knife in question "doesn't match an outline of the knife on the bed." Additionally, Bremner says, expert testimony has already indicated that at least two of the wounds on Kercher's neck couldn't have been made by that particular blade. That aside, she points out, it's not surprising that Knox's DNA would be on its handle; she prepared dinner with Sollecito in his apartment.

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Old 29.04.2013, 14:37
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Bremner is an idiot.

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Old 30.04.2013, 17:05
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Re: Knox case...

Knox goes on US TV to protest innocence

"The interview is timed to coincide with the release of Miss Knox's autobiography (Waiting to Be Heard), for which she was reportedly paid more than $4m (£2.5m), the BBC's David Willis in Washington reports."

Trouble with doing this is that if she appears to be media savvy, people will wonder whether her appearance in court was also a controlled performance.
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Old 30.01.2014, 23:00
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Re: Knox case...

Preliminary news out of Italy tonight, the murder convictions of both defendants have been upheld.

Correction - this was apparently a retrial and they have been found guilty again. Apparently Italy does not have a double-jeopardy law.

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Old 30.01.2014, 23:59
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Preliminary news out of Italy tonight, the murder convictions of both defendants have been upheld.

Correction - this was apparently a retrial and they have been found guilty again. Apparently Italy does not have a double-jeopardy law.
It was not a re-trial, it was a re-hearing of the appeal.

Trial, guilty.

Appeal, guilty.

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Preliminary news out of Italy tonight, the murder convictions of both defendants have been upheld.

Correction - this was apparently a retrial and they have been found guilty again. Apparently Italy does not have a double-jeopardy law.
That wouldn't be double jeopardy. Double jeopary is when you can't be found guilty of the same crime twice. You can always be found guilty and either retried or appealed to overturn.
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Old 31.01.2014, 02:32
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Re: Knox case...

She had better take her 4 millions and go to a country with no Italian extradition agreements: though it might have to be no EU extradition possible.
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Old 31.01.2014, 05:43
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She had better take her 4 millions and go to a country with no Italian extradition agreements: though it might have to be no EU extradition possible.
There was an article in the US press today that said that she could just stay in the US and the chances of her being extradited to Italy were pretty slim, since the scenario probably does meet the conditions of double jeopardy, as it's interpreted in the US...
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Old 31.01.2014, 09:06
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There was an article in the US press today that said that she could just stay in the US and the chances of her being extradited to Italy were pretty slim, since the scenario probably does meet the conditions of double jeopardy, as it's interpreted in the US...
Well, as we all know the Italian justice system is corrupt. How on earth could an American be convicted by such a system? Because, of course, the US system is a shining beacon of how things should be done
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She had better take her 4 millions and go to a country with no Italian extradition agreements: though it might have to be no EU extradition possible.
There's absolutely no way the States will extradite her, they'll find a way around it same as with the Cavalese cable car disaster. Heaven forbid a US citizen has to stand and be sentenced trial in the country where they committed the crime.
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Re: Knox case...

Unless it's Snowden.
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Re: Knox case...

A blog post including some amusing alternative views of some of the evidence:

http://gmancasefile.com/1/post/2013/...ands-opus.html

He also has some more recent posts discussing show trials and double jeopardy.

Note that the blog writer is/was a consultant for the defense.
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That wouldn't be double jeopardy. Double jeopary is when you can't be found guilty of the same crime twice. You can always be found guilty and either retried or appealed to overturn.
Have you metamormphosed from someone I used to think of as FritoMisto?
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why would an innocent person do kart-wheels while her boyfriend is being questioned for a murder, and innocent people don't keep changing their story, or lie about an alibi...Just doesn't add up.
Was thinking about the kartwheels this morning. Maybe not a sign of guilt, but seems strangely upbeat and carefree behaviour after a fellow student has been murdered. Also the standing around kissing, assuming they'd already been told about the murder.

Wonder if drugs could explain the behaviour. If she was innocent and really couldn't remember... or if she was guilty, but didn't care. If she/they were innocent and had been on something, one would think that drugs might have been cited as a reason for changing the story. Unless any reference to them would have undermined the defence.

One of the recent news reports about the situation in the Central African Republic was saying that the killers were high. It's not the first time that's been mentioned in connection with African militias. Also the Charles Manson gang...weren't they supposed to be on something?

Just noticed this:
"Having been found innocent before, I expected better from the Italian justice system." (source)
She says "found innocent" and not "I am innocent". Probably irrelevant, but thought it was interesting.
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Re: Knox case...

Apparently Sollicito has been stopped by the police whilst trying to get into Austria.
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Old 31.01.2014, 12:27
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Re: Knox case...

was also pretty damning when they made statements regarding the new guilty verdict, neither said they where innocent, they both said there was no evidence, very odd
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Re: Knox case...

I know its off topic and borderline inappropriate, but I think Stephanie Kercher is very attractive.


From what little information I know of the case, the whole thing seems to be a mess. Isn't there already one guy in prison??


I hope the Kercher family will eventually get some form of closure with this ordeal.


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There was an article in the US press today that said that she could just stay in the US and the chances of her being extradited to Italy were pretty slim, since the scenario probably does meet the conditions of double jeopardy, as it's interpreted in the US...
What the US version of Double Jeapordy got to do with it? Italy has no such law, and it falls under Italian jurisdiction.

In any case, it wasnt a retrial, it was a continuation of the first trial.
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