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A US appeals court has ruled a couple who gave their children Nazi-inspired names should not regain custody, citing the risk of serious injury to them.

Adolf Hitler Campbell, 4, and his sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 3, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie, 2, were taken from their New Jersey home in 2009.
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A family court had earlier found there was insufficient evidence of abuse



For the record , Nazism is vile and abhorrent. To be detested at every level.

BUT

This kind of intervention is way too far. The State should stay on the other side of the home door in such affairs as the naming of our children.
I admit the names are in bad taste, but then look at the names given to children by many Hollywood stars.

I think the authorities are right, parents like that are irresponsible giving names to kids that the kids will suffer with when they grow up.
I do agree that Hollywood stars give their children ridiculous names but most are not going to make the child suffer as much as "Adolf Hitler" would.

Irresponsible or not, it is a parents choice. How long would a list of names be if you removed all the ones that any or everyone didn't like ? Zero...

So Circumcision should be ok too if it's parents choice?

Sometimes, actually reading the article that one posts before one posts it can be a revelation...

" But on Thursday, the appeals panel determined that social
workers had proved the need for protective services for the
three children.

They found the parents had "recklessly created a risk of
serious injury to their children by failing to protect the
children from harm and failing to acknowledge and treat
their disabilities".

The judges also noted that Deborah Campbell had recently
passed a letter to a neighbour saying her husband had
threatened "to have me killed or kill me himself". "

Indeed, WE should.

A family court had earlier found there was insufficient evidence of abuse

I try to read between the lines on this one. It is nearly always the case that there is more to it that reported.

As for the threats, if my children were taken away from me, I suppose that's how I would feel too.

He also alleged that the authorities had relied on unproven accusations made by a neighbour and his ex-wife.

It depends who you want to beleive really.

That is exactly what I meant.... There is too much hate in this world to expect a child with a name like that to grow up without being at least psychologically tortured by it....

If someone is up to named is kids with those names, you can think he might be not all there!

The children in question were not physically harmed/maimed by their parents. So , politely, cross posting is not quite relevant or welcome here.

Right wingers might, afterall, isnt he their hero? Doesnt mean that they are all not right in the head, just seriously misguided and bigoted.

Think, thoughts, opinnion. You wouldn't ask people to help you decide your childrens names. How would you feel if they were taken away from you because people didn't like what you called them.

Are you kidding me???

Naming the kids like that can be way more harmfull then a little piece of skin who doesn't have much utility anyway!

I am just comparing your comment saying the parents can do or decide what they want only when it does apply you opinion!

A kid named Hitler is comdamned to suffer from people hates and comments and judgement. This is a call for being beat up.

I don't agree with the fact they took their kids away. My position will be more of a prevention one. When they registered their kids when they born, it shouldn't be allowed at THAT moment.

Quite so.


According to court records, both parents suffer from physical and psychological disabilities. The court found that both parents were themselves victims of childhood abuse and said neither have received adequate treatment for their serious psychological conditions.
Heath Campbell, 37, cannot read and Deborah Campbell dropped out of high school before finishing 10th grade.
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Rubbish. Again , please stop cross-posting and taking this off topic.

A call for being beat up ? Wow, some thoughts coming from your head.

Condemmed to suffer ? What did you have in mind, what is going on in your mind ??? What hideous thoughts are you creating here ???

I am with the hatter here.

The naming of the children is irresponsible, but it doesnt warrant them being removed from the family, where there hasnt been sufficient evidence of abuse. As if they wouldnt get similar stick in the foster homes by others because of their names. Doesnt achieve anything by removing them based on the facts so far.

A deed poll can simply be done to change their names.

EDIT:

Ahhh..

Use your brain a little.

Imagine you go to school and your name is Adolf Hitler. Kids go home and learn who was that guy from their parents. They come back to school, what do you think will happen?

Edit: Just having a muslim name in the state can be a problem.

the article i read about this story on fark.com said the following:

The appeals court ruled Thursday that sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect existed because of domestic violence in the home.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/ado...080510_9028479

so, maybe your anti nannystate rage is a bit misplaced here sir?

Clearly there are two issues here.

WeeJeem has dug up some other evidence regarding their mental state, and that can be reason for taking children into care. The mental issues reported do not exclude anyone from parenting. They are parents and have as much right and responsibility as all other parents.

On the other side you have state intervention in domestic / private issues.

For clarities sake, I am trying to take this argument down the lines of the latter.

I believe that a state has more responsibility than only organizing parking fines. One of the most obvious is to protect it's members - from outside threats as well as from each other. We had a similar discussion before when some extreme Christian nutcases lost a case on federal level in Germany denying them the opportunity to homeschool their kids: I strongly believe that kids have rights. The beginning of the German constitution is "The dignity of man is inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all public authority."

Yes, as a parent, you have the right to name your children. But: Naming a kid Adolf Hitler is in my eyes clearly an attack on the childs dignity. A judge has to chose which right is stronger and I personally would be on the human right for dignity than the fun and games the parents have with the name of their choice. Yes, this includes some of those Holywood names as well, but "Apple" or "Paris" does not harm a person's dignity as much as Adolf Hitler does.