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Hello all.

My name is Joyce Hanni, I currently reside in Virginia, USA but have always dreamed of moving to Switzerland, and now I would like to make that dream a reality.

My family and I just got back from a trip to Switzerland a week ago today, and I absolutely loved everything about Switzerland. Its so gorgeous there! Clean, friendly and everywhere I went, they were all so careful so as not to be wasteful. I loved that! It was definitely a huge change of pace from living in America, which I would be more than happy take on. I'm not thrilled with living here anymore, especially after visiting there. I just cannot get the thought of wanting to be back in Switzerland out of my head!

I have family in Switzerland, my grandpa's father moved to the US (Wisconsin) from Switzerland, which is where I get my Swiss last name. My grandpa's cousin and her family are still there, and we met up with them while we were visiting the country. They were all really awesome people! All very successful and very nice people. I believe they mostly live in the canton of Bern, which I think is where I would like to move to as well. One for sure lives in Zurich.

I am here to find out everything I need to know to get the process of moving there going. I found this site by researching what the processes is for bringing pets over, as we have a dog. I will be trying to find info on searching for jobs, learning German, finding living situations, buying cars, etc. and I will appreciate any help you all can help me out with throughout the forums!
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Old 07.06.2011, 23:15
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Welcome to EF, Joyce. I'm trying to get back to Vaud.
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Welcome to EF! Hopefully you will find it to be a highly useful tool as you begin your research on relocating. Please take it slowly and know that there can be some serious complexities involved in reaching your goal of living in Switzerland. All the "hoops" to be jumped through will make getting there even more meaningful to you, though. Best of luck to you!
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if you do not have any eu passport or anything similar your chances just diminished incredibly.

Its funny how peoples preferences are different. I cannot wait to move back to the USA (lived there 5 years in MN) and now 3 years here in Switzerland. The clock cannot tick fast enough. Also visiting for a few weeks and living here is far far far from the same.

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convenience young life= USA (given a ok job etc)
retirement = Perhaps Switzerland

but to each their own. tons of people love it here, tons of people hate it......
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we also brought our dog from the US. it wasn't too difficult, just a matter of getting your vet to sign off on some papers. you can find everything you need here:

http://pettravelstore.com/products/P...Residency.html

we got the international microchip just before leaving, but of course the swiss scanners did not pick it up so we had to get him re-microchipped when we got here. unfortunate waste of money.

just so you know, dogs are expensive in switzerland! you have to pay an import fee ($), then take him to a swiss vet when you first get here ($) and then you have to pay a registration fee ($) and then of course your anual dog tax with your local gemeinde ($).

its worth it though good luck!
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Re: Intro - US Citizen Wanting to Move to Switzerland

It's always best to go directly to the source, especially when dealing with something so important as regulations surrounding an international move.

So - for information on bringing your pets into Switzerland, from the Bvet (Federal Veterinary Office):

http://bvet.bytix.com/plus/dbr/default.aspx?lang=en

(By the bye, what breed is your dog, SMRFETT? Be aware that some cantons have enacted BSL...)

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Well, from your photo, I gather that you're already in a relationship. But otherwise, you could do what I did... and meet a Swiss guy on myspace, visit him a few times and then marry him.

(Not that I did that intentionally, but that's just how it worked out).

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I am here to find out everything I need to know to get the process of moving there going.
First of all, you need to get a residence permit.

As you have relatives here, they might be your best bet, but great-grandfather is perhaps too distant. However, I would start there.

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Thank you all for the welcome!

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Welcome to EF! Hopefully you will find it to be a highly useful tool as you begin your research on relocating. Please take it slowly and know that there can be some serious complexities involved in reaching your goal of living in Switzerland. All the "hoops" to be jumped through will make getting there even more meaningful to you, though. Best of luck to you!
Yeah, I am not so sure of what I'm getting into as far as the process goes, or if it is even possible (hoping so!) for me to move, but I expect there to be some complications and things to be worked out. I'm sure it will make it all the more worth it! Thank you!

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if you do not have any eu passport or anything similar your chances just diminished incredibly.

Its funny how peoples preferences are different. I cannot wait to move back to the USA (lived there 5 years in MN) and now 3 years here in Switzerland. The clock cannot tick fast enough. Also visiting for a few weeks and living here is far far far from the same.

basically IMHO
convenience young life= USA (given a ok job etc)
retirement = Perhaps Switzerland

but to each their own. tons of people love it here, tons of people hate it......
Convenience...yes I would miss some of this. Places close incredibly early in Switzerland, but I think I can deal with this and adjust. I think my quality of life will be much better living in Switzerland, and that's really what I'm looking for. Nothing is holding me here in America anymore, and I'm not really thrilled with the direction we are going. Jobs are not OK. Of course I could move to a bigger city and find a better job but that is not what I am looking for. I grew up around Washington DC and I moved away from there because it all just became too much (hectic) for me.

I do not have an EU Passport so I do expect this to be somewhat difficult for me and possibly a long process, but that's why I'm here, to find all of this out!

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we also brought our dog from the US. it wasn't too difficult, just a matter of getting your vet to sign off on some papers. you can find everything you need here:

http://pettravelstore.com/products/P...Residency.html

we got the international microchip just before leaving, but of course the swiss scanners did not pick it up so we had to get him re-microchipped when we got here. unfortunate waste of money.

just so you know, dogs are expensive in switzerland! you have to pay an import fee ($), then take him to a swiss vet when you first get here ($) and then you have to pay a registration fee ($) and then of course your anual dog tax with your local gemeinde ($).

its worth it though good luck!
Good to know! I will have to look into the international microchip early on then. And save up extra money for the dog lol. Thanks!!

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It's always best to go directly to the source, especially when dealing with something so important as regulations surrounding an international move.

So - for information on bringing your pets into Switzerland, from the Bvet (Federal Veterinary Office):

http://bvet.bytix.com/plus/dbr/default.aspx?lang=en

(By the bye, what breed is your dog, SMRFETT? Be aware that some cantons have enacted BSL...)
Thanks for the link! We have a Border Collie/Lab mix. Enacted BSL? I'm not sure what this means.

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Well, from your photo, I gather that you're already in a relationship. But otherwise, you could do what I did... and meet a Swiss guy on myspace, visit him a few times and then marry him.

(Not that I did that intentionally, but that's just how it worked out).

Good luck!
LOL yes I am, but that would make it easier wouldn't it! Lucky you for finding a good Swiss man. Thanks!! Are you happier living in Switzerland than in the states?

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First of all, you need to get a residence permit.

As you have relatives here, they might be your best bet, but great-grandfather is perhaps too distant. However, I would start there.

Tom
Great info, thank you! I will have to get in touch with my relatives and see if they can help me out with this, or at least give me more info.
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Thanks for the link! We have a Border Collie/Lab mix. Enacted BSL? I'm not sure what this means.
BSL is breed-specific legislation, i.e, banning or restricting dogs based on their breed alone regardless of how well-trained and well-behaved the dog is. (Do a search of the Pet Corner for more info on this - there are several threads discussing this worrying trend.)

The good news is that your dog's breed/mix is not on any of the lists.

So now your main (pet-related) worry will be finding housing where dogs are allowed, and neighbors tolerant.

Best of luck in your quest.

(I am leaving Switzerland for my dogs' sake. My experience with rising intolerance here has convinced me that it is no longer possible to give a dog a decent life in our corner of CH. But other EF dog owners have had positive experiences - hopefully you will, too. You can read all about this subject in other threads in the Pet Corner as well. )
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Wow, really? Intolerance? I saw dogs everywhere where I visited (mainly in the canton of Bern)...I am kind of surprised to hear that. What is your pet's breed? I will definitely head over to Pet Corner to find out more info. Thanks again!
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LOL yes I am, but that would make it easier wouldn't it! Lucky you for finding a good Swiss man. Thanks!! Are you happier living in Switzerland than in the states?
Yes, I am happier here now, but it did take me quite a while to adjust to living in a foreign country. There really are quite a few cultural differences between here and the US, and I found myself really missing my friends and family from back home. So I went through a long period of depression after first moving here that lasted for about a year. But I found that my happiness level improved greatly once I learned enough German to get by and became more comfortable with getting around on my own. Also, making a good female friend here really helped. She is also from the US and it's nice to hang out with someone who gets my jokes, etc.
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Hello all.

My name is Joyce Hanni, I currently reside in Virginia, USA but have always dreamed of moving to Switzerland, and now I would like to make that dream a reality.

My family and I just got back from a trip to Switzerland a week ago today, and I absolutely loved everything about Switzerland. Its so gorgeous there! Clean, friendly and everywhere I went, they were all so careful so as not to be wasteful. I loved that! It was definitely a huge change of pace from living in America, which I would be more than happy take on. I'm not thrilled with living here anymore, especially after visiting there. I just cannot get the thought of wanting to be back in Switzerland out of my head!

I have family in Switzerland, my grandpa's father moved to the US (Wisconsin) from Switzerland, which is where I get my Swiss last name. My grandpa's cousin and her family are still there, and we met up with them while we were visiting the country. They were all really awesome people! All very successful and very nice people. I believe they mostly live in the canton of Bern, which I think is where I would like to move to as well. One for sure lives in Zurich.

I am here to find out everything I need to know to get the process of moving there going. I found this site by researching what the processes is for bringing pets over, as we have a dog. I will be trying to find info on searching for jobs, learning German, finding living situations, buying cars, etc. and I will appreciate any help you all can help me out with throughout the forums!
What is your occupation? This could help you immensely in getting a work
permit for Switzerland. Computer and finance specialists are always in
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Yes, I am happier here now, but it did take me quite a while to adjust to living in a foreign country. There really are quite a few cultural differences between here and the US, and I found myself really missing my friends and family from back home. So I went through a long period of depression after first moving here that lasted for about a year. But I found that my happiness level improved greatly once I learned enough German to get by and became more comfortable with getting around on my own. Also, making a good female friend here really helped. She is also from the US and it's nice to hang out with someone who gets my jokes, etc.
Please feel free to private message me with any questions, etc.
And I really do wish you much happiness, wherever life takes you!
I can understand how you went through some rough times, definitely not knowing any German would make it tough to live there! But I'm glad things improved for you and that you are happier there now. And thank you so much! I will take you up on that offer whenever I have all my questions figured out lol.

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What is your occupation? This could help you immensely in getting a work
permit for Switzerland. Computer and finance specialists are always in
demand?
I have a degree in Web Development, and am very good with computers in general. I currently am working in a Marketing Associate position, though it is not my ideal job choice. I also do Graphic Design (what I would really like a job doing) and am an amateur photographer (something I would like to actually go back to school for).

My relatives there told me Graphic Design jobs are big in Zurich and some in Bern too, so that is something I am looking for. One of my relatives that is fluent in English and works for an international company did tell me that she would let me know if a Graphic Design job opened up in her department (the job is currently being done by her assistant)...just don't know when or if that is going to happen lol.
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Yes. If you have a job in IT/Banking that would be a great help.

I lived in DC for 4 years. Had to get out. Much too hectic for me as well. And the traffic almost kiled me. I learned to drive everywhere avoiding the highways. The parkways are more beautiful anyway.

But it's fun to visit. We were back there last year for a few days. It was nice to be back. (and then to leave again!)
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Hi Joyce,
I had to order the Euro-microchip for my cat. The vets I talked to (in a large metro area) had no clue that there were different chips for Europe, and why would they know, really? You order it online and your vet injects the chip, which comes in a syringe-type mechanism. Then your dog gets a rabies shot and you send your form to your state's USDA veterinary service. They can stamp the form 21 days after the rabies shot. (I just checked multiple places to make sure these are the correct steps and I have been assured that they are). Nine days later you are free to take your dog to Europe.

Unfortunately, you have approximately 83 steps to take before you need to worry about chipping your dog. Sounds like you are in a good profession to work just about anywhere. You just need to figure out how to get a work permit and then start jumping through flaming hoops, such as finding an affordable place to live that will take you with an animal. It sounds like you are on the right track, though. Good luck!
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Well, I'm glad to hear I'm at least in a good profession to be moving to Switzerland! I guess it's a start.

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Yes. If you have a job in IT/Banking that would be a great help.

I lived in DC for 4 years. Had to get out. Much too hectic for me as well. And the traffic almost kiled me. I learned to drive everywhere avoiding the highways. The parkways are more beautiful anyway.

But it's fun to visit. We were back there last year for a few days. It was nice to be back. (and then to leave again!)
I know what you mean! I grew up learning how to drive in that traffic! Talk about scary! lol. You did pretty well if you could find a way around all the highways! Still traffic everywhere anyway though...but they are more beautiful, you are right about that.

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I had to order the Euro-microchip for my cat. The vets I talked to (in a large metro area) had no clue that there were different chips for Europe, and why would they know, really? You order it online and your vet injects the chip, which comes in a syringe-type mechanism. Then your dog gets a rabies shot and you send your form to your state's USDA veterinary service. They can stamp the form 21 days after the rabies shot. (I just checked multiple places to make sure these are the correct steps and I have been assured that they are). Nine days later you are free to take your dog to Europe.

Unfortunately, you have approximately 83 steps to take before you need to worry about chipping your dog. Sounds like you are in a good profession to work just about anywhere. You just need to figure out how to get a work permit and then start jumping through flaming hoops, such as finding an affordable place to live that will take you with an animal. It sounds like you are on the right track, though. Good luck!
This is great information, thanks! When it comes around that time and if my Vet doesn't have them I will now know where to look. My dog's Rabies shot is good through 2013...and I hope that I will be well through this process by then...do you think this shot is going to be okay? Did your cat need a rabies shot when you got theirs? I'm not sure how cats work, if you have to have one for them at all times like dogs or what. Thanks again! Hopefully I can get through the first 83 steps now...
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do you have a visa? They do not like illegal immigrants here. Just like in US they do not like Swiss Citizens without the proper visa. Or do you think that because you are US Citizen you can live anywhere you want?
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do you have a visa? They do not like illegal immigrants here. Just like in US they do not like Swiss Citizens without the proper visa. Or do you think that because you are US Citizen you can live anywhere you want?
Nowhere does the OP say she wants to move to Switzerland illegally.
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