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Hi all. I'm a mid 30's Finnish guy who has recently unearthed his long forgotten desire to live and work in another country. This time around the plans are so far that we've put our home on sale and are planning the move.

We are currently considering the French speaking area but are open to other opportunities as well. My wife speaks French and I speak very little German so that's one reason. We'll be moving with two kids so that's another major factor that will affect some choices.

There are still loads of particulars to work out but this forum has already been of great help. Hopefully I can offer someone assistance in the future.
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Welcome to the forum. Good luck with the move!
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Sounds exciting! Good luck with the move. Our family is English and French speaking but we ended up near Zurich and we've all adapted well. The local Swiss schools offer quite a lot of support to incoming children with no German.
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Re: Finnish guy planning the jump

Welcome!

The German speaking part is of course bigger, so there are more options. Something to consider?
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Thanks for the welcomes. These are all very valid points you discuss. I guess in the end it's the job that matters the most. For some reason my wife likes Vaud a lot so we've checked some rental ads from that area. I also have a friend there so that makes it somehow tempting. I will keep on searching for family friendly areas in other cantons as well.
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Welcome all.
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The German speaking part is of course bigger, so there are more options. Something to consider?


And consider I did. As a sort of status update for you all I just finished my second round of interviews in Zug. Also, we had a little trip to different parts of the country earlier this year. Things are starting to look promising...
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Re: Finnish guy planning the jump

Always nice to hear that i am not only one here from Fin. I am surprised that I have not meet anyone at live when I have live here last year.

I wish you luck to settle down. And happy Easter.
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The planning just got into gear. I have received a job offer and in all likelyhood I will start mid-June. Our place of residence is not known yet but because the job is in kanton Zug we might move there or perhaps on ZH side. Some have even suggested Lucerne. We'll see.


Really looking forward to this.
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Re: Finnish guy planning the jump

you can also check the French speaking part of Bern.

Neuchatel or Fribourg is a good option.
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you can also check the French speaking part of Bern.

Neuchatel or Fribourg is a good option.
Do you mean I should look for jobs or an apartment there? I don't quite see how I could commute from Fribourg or Neuchâtel to Zug.
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...I don't quite see how I could commute from Fribourg or Neuchâtel to Zug.
Are you focusing on commuting to Zug for a particular reason? Perhaps the industry you work in is there? Anyway it's going to be a bit of a commute from any hugely-populated French-speaking area.

As French is an official language of the country, I believe you can request official documents (leases, phone and other contracts, permit paperwork) in French, even if you live in an area where folks primarily speak German.

If you really want to live in a French-speaking area, Biel/Bienne in canton Bern is officially bilingual and is probably your shortest commute...short meaning about an hour each way in the car in little traffic.
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Are you focusing on commuting to Zug for a particular reason? Perhaps the industry you work in is there?



Ok I can see the confusion now. In my first post in October 2014 I did target the Romandie. However in my last (well not anymore) post (April 2015) I said.



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...I have received a job offer and in all likelyhood I will start mid-June. Our place of residence is not known yet but because the job is in kanton Zug we might move there ...
So yea, the office is in Zug. Therefore either ZG, south ZH or east(?) LZ seem more realistic now. But like you said, perhaps my wife will still get a chance to use her French. 😊
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Re: Finnish guy planning the jump

Hi,
I commute from Luzern to Zug for work by train. It's a 20 min ride from station to station. My total journey from door to door takes an hour though (with bus and a train change). On the train I have the time to listen to interesting podcasts which I really enjoy. Luzern is a very nice place to live. We have been living in Winterthur before and my husband worked in Zürich for many years. Now for us, we think Luzern is far more beautiful than ZH but that depends on your preferences of course.
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I commute from Luzern to Zug for work by train. It's a 20 min ride from station to station. My total journey from door to door takes an hour though (with bus and a train change). On the train I have the time to listen to interesting podcasts which I really enjoy. Luzern is a very nice place to live. We have been living in Winterthur before and my husband worked in Zürich for many years. Now for us, we think Luzern is far more beautiful than ZH but that depends on your preferences of course.


I studied the housing market and transport connections in Luzern and your story is in line what I found. There's a fast train link but obviously only if you live close to the station. Rents near the bahnhof on the other hand...


Of the three I have only been to Zürich and Zug but Luzern looks beautiful in pictures and even in maps. I'll definitely go and check it out when I arrive.
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I studied the housing market and transport connections in Luzern and your story is in line what I found. There's a fast train link but obviously only if you live close to the station. Rents near the bahnhof on the other hand...


Of the three I have only been to Zürich and Zug but Luzern looks beautiful in pictures and even in maps. I'll definitely go and check it out when I arrive.
Congrats on the job offer!

You should also consider the tax difference. I am not specialist, but according to some EFers, above a certain income the lower taxes in ZG starts to offset the higher rents (compared to Zuerich).
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Re: Finnish guy planning the jump

Housing in ZH is far more expensing than in LU. An for both is true that the further from the city centre away the less expensive the rents are (as in every other place on the planet too I guess). ZH HB to ZG train station is about the same length as from LU to ZG.

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I studied the housing market and transport connections in Luzern and your story is in line what I found. There's a fast train link but obviously only if you live close to the station. Rents near the bahnhof on the other hand...


Of the three I have only been to Zürich and Zug but Luzern looks beautiful in pictures and even in maps. I'll definitely go and check it out when I arrive.
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Re: Finnish guy planning the jump

Hi,


you work in Zug and I think Zug has lowest taxes in Switzerland so I would stay in Zug, Luzern on other hand is lively place and rent may be cheaper.


here are some useful link in Finnish http://www.kirkkosveitsissa.com/20
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Congrats on the job offer!

You should also consider the tax difference. I am not specialist, but according to some EFers, above a certain income the lower taxes in ZG starts to offset the higher rents (compared to Zuerich).
Thanks! Do you know what the "certain income" threshold might be?

These different financial factors are something I've been trying to calculate a lot but there's always too many variables. On top of numbers there is also the very important factor of my family and what makes them happy. It's something that is priceless and hard to measure.

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Re: Finnish guy planning the jump

Hi Druid,

This comparison site will help you assess which canton (and even which commune) will be most favorable for you based on your salary and personal situation.

https://en.comparis.ch/umzug-schweiz/kanton.aspx

I hope this helps in your decision!
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