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Greetings from Russia, looking 4 friends

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I'm interested in Switzerland and want to know more about its culture, as a part of this task, I'm looking for people who are willing to communicate. Now, little bit about myself. My bithplace is south of Syberia, I've traveled a lot, lived in different cities including our capital, even lived in other countries. Through all my life i had a lot of interests and activities, however, in current stage almost all of them are gone. Nowdays I'm looking for way out of Russia - it's just not looking good, the thing it's turning into.

I'm working since i was 15, sometimes work lead me to really interesting places, like polar stations, giant factories, business expos. I decided to get higher education on technical speciality, get some work experience and then move away. Currently I'm 22, so I have some time.

With best regards and hope to recieve some messages, Endspiel.
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Only four?
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Where were they last seen?
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4 friends? ...... my Irish cousin, living in Canada, knows tree fellers - does that help?
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Nowdays I'm looking for way out of Russia - it's just not looking good, the thing it's turning into.
That's Putin it lightly.
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Re: Greetings from Russia, looking 4 friends

Looking 4 friends... with a view to marriage, by any chance?
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Sobeit, thanks!

Furious Rose, nice sense of humor, didn't expected that kind of reply Well, i count on 3-4 friends at least, to know Switzerland better.

JBZ86, they were last seen talking near police station, and then they just suddenly disappeared. Joking!

TiMow, only if that fellers can build pinokios

Richdog, that's doubful. I have lot to do before i depart, even further - i don't like the whole idea of marriage. It seems pointless to me, except for juridical status of family member. People have free will, they can leave any time they want, no matter how much you invested in relations. It's like buying car that have right to drive away from you any time it wants. It's risky. And i prefer working options, not the "maybe" ones.

Tom, that's not him only. That's almost whole nation. It was like this forever - you can read some of our classic literature to find out that Russia was like this forever, not just from communism times. That's exactly why a lot people just leaving the county - you cannot move the mountain, if u don't like it - just go away. You better never try to argue about your rights, because even constitution is not working, here check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy-31 I often have a "nice conservations" with people who think that Russia should go on like this - conquering, isloating, hunting its own citizens... I don't even know, are they brainwashed or really that bad at thinking direction. Perhaps, it's the legacy, which lives throught the generations - the legal slavery was canceled here only at 1861 and 50 years later communism showed up... Here some more data on that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanci...reform_of_1861 And that's how we live in Russia.

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Tom, that's not him only. That's almost whole nation. It was like this forever - you can read some of our classic literature to find out that Russia was like this forever, not just from communism times. That's exactly why a lot people just leaving the county - you cannot move the mountain, if u don't like it - just go away. You better never try to argue about your rights, because even constitution is not working, here check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy-31 I often have a "nice conservations" with people who think that Russia should go on like this - conquering, isloating, hunting its own citizens... I don't even know, are they brainwashed or really that bad at thinking direction. Perhaps, it's the legacy, which lives throught the generations - the legal slavery was canceled here only at 1861 and 50 years later communism showed up... Here some more data on that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanci...reform_of_1861 And that's how we live in Russia.
People seem to like the FSB version of the truth in Russia, or have no choice since Putin (ex KGB) removed the free media. Shame I had big hopes for the Russian people early 1990's to move closer to European style democracy and return to their true position in Europe.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasnost

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Re: Greetings from Russia, looking 4 friends

True, Cata1yst. But still, there are lot of people in Russia who want to see a better future, however, most of them don't even try to do something. And as the time passes by, they starting to actually believe in this atni-western propaganda. It's very sad. When i'm comparing Russia and North Korea, with each passing year differences are fading. Crimea changed everything. Almost everyone finded out, that they just love president. They don't think of consequences. They just think "wow, our empire is growing! Crimea was ours, and it is ours again!" You see, Moscow is also known as "Third Rome", for a very long time between russian people. Ironicaly, it sometimes reminds me of another third empire. I think you may have suggestions, what it is. You see, there are no such a country in the world, where one people conquered a lot of other and was able to hold them within one country borders. Empire idea is a central for vast of russian people. Everything is tolerated, just give some cool stories about "How we showed russian bear to the world, and the world trembled in fear, powerless to do any harm!" And if you annex "the city of battle glory" with huge naval base and warm sea to spent warm summer on, you can count on people for sure - they'll just make you czar.

I'm little tired of russian politics. Can we speak about Switzerland? I heard that you people have direct democracy with whole-town referendums and very decent human right policy. Can you tell me more?
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True, Cata1yst. But still, there are lot of people in Russia who want to see a better future, however, most of them don't even try to do something. And as the time passes by, they starting to actually believe in this atni-western propaganda. It's very sad. When i'm comparing Russia and North Korea, with each passing year differences are fading. Crimea changed everything. Almost everyone finded out, that they just love president. They don't think of consequences. They just think "wow, our empire is growing! Crimea was ours, and it is ours again!" You see, Moscow is also known as "Third Rome", for a very long time between russian people. Ironicaly, it sometimes reminds me of another third empire. I think you may have suggestions, what it is. You see, there are no such a country in the world, where one people conquered a lot of other and was able to hold them within one country borders. Empire idea is a central for vast of russian people. Everything is tolerated, just give some cool stories about "How we showed russian bear to the world, and the world trembled in fear, powerless to do any harm!" And if you annex "the city of battle glory" with huge naval base and warm sea to spent warm summer on, you can count on people for sure - they'll just make you czar.

I'm little tired of russian politics. Can we speak about Switzerland? I heard that you people have direct democracy with whole-town referendums and very decent human right policy. Can you tell me more?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Switzerland

Switzerland is the closest state in the world to a direct democracy. For any change in the constitution, a referendum is mandatory (mandatory referendum); for any change in a law, a referendum can be requested (optional referendum). Through referenda, citizens may challenge any law voted by federal parliament and through federal popular initiative introduce amendments to the federal constitution.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom...Western_Europe

Human rights is a big topic, which aspect do you mean?
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Hi!

I'm interested in Switzerland and want to know more about its culture, as a part of this task, I'm looking for people who are willing to communicate. Now, little bit about myself. My bithplace is south of Syberia, I've traveled a lot, lived in different cities including our capital, even lived in other countries. Through all my life i had a lot of interests and activities, however, in current stage almost all of them are gone. Nowdays I'm looking for way out of Russia - it's just not looking good, the thing it's turning into.

I'm working since i was 15, sometimes work lead me to really interesting places, like polar stations, giant factories, business expos. I decided to get higher education on technical speciality, get some work experience and then move away. Currently I'm 22, so I have some time.

With best regards and hope to recieve some messages, Endspiel.
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Re: Greetings from Russia, looking 4 friends

Thanks, Sudeepta!

Cata1yst, thank you too! I mostly interested in direct democracy in action and privacy rights. That's the exact reason, why i'm interested in Switzerland. Since lot of countries seem to just use their citizens your example is inspiring one. If i will be able to relocate in the future - Switzerland seems to be the ideal place. It's just unbelievable for russian citizen, to see such a well-organised community. I only wish i could someday see that kind of culture on the whole planet, but that sounds too optimistic!

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Thanks, Sudeepta!

Cata1yst, thank you too! I mostly interested in direct democracy in action and privacy rights. That's the exact reason, why i'm interested in Switzerland. Since lot of countries seem to just use their citizens your example is inspiring one. If i will be able to relocate in the future - Switzerland seems to be the ideal place. It's just unbelievable for russian citizen, to see such a well-organised community. I only wish i could someday see that kind of culture on the whole planet, but that sounds too optimistic!

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You'll be able to thank for other posts after you make 10 posts yourself.
So please continue, you seem like a nice and patient person. Quite a refreshing presence.

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Endspiel- I like you. Can I be your friend?
You wrote such a nice description of yourself and after a lot of ''searching for a job in Swiss? '' or ''how can I obtain a permit?'' or '' can I live with 120.000 francs in Switzerland?'' messages , you managed to uplift the forum a bit and as greenmount said, your messages are refreshing.

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That's Putin it lightly.

When I was in Warsaw last time I saw this cool dude wearing a t-shirt with with "F*** you Putin" on it. I thought " wow, great shirt I need one too" so I approached him to ask where he got this great shirt but he said Kiev. Do you know where I could get one?

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Why would you wear a t-shirt that says "f.... putin" ???
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When I was in Warsaw last time I saw this cool dude wearing a t-shirt with with "F*** you Putin" on it. I thought " wow, great shirt I need one too" so I approached him to ask where he got this great shirt but he said Kiev. Do you know where I could get one?
I can get you one, I work with people in Kiev and have many friends from the Ukraine. I visit twice a year, so when I'm next up or someone comes over I'll ask.

What size, colour? PM me

Reminds me of my father wearing this crossing the Canada/US border, he was close to a lynching.

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When I was in Warsaw last time I saw this cool dude wearing a t-shirt with with "F*** you Putin" on it. I thought " wow, great shirt I need one too" so I approached him to ask where he got this great shirt but he said Kiev. Do you know where I could get one?
Careful, if you are a pretty woman and wear this T-shirt you might send the wrong message.
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Awaiting orders for F*** You Putin, T-Shirts have buyer lined up in the Ukraine.
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