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I am from Haiti (a country located in the caribbean), i immigrated to Canada 6 years ago, i met my wife here who's a swiss citizen, she wants to go back to Neuchâtel. We now live in Montreal and just have a baby, i need to know it
´s that a smart move to leave Canada for Switzerland?
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Re: Switzerland?

Welcome to the forum and congrats on the little one.

Only you can decide that with your wife. Without more info from you on what you do for work, qualifications, etc, we can't help a lot. I can tell you that at present you'd only get a permit because of being married to your wife and if the marriage breaks down within 3 years of living here you'd risk losing the right to live/work here. So should you divorce you could find yourself excluded from a large part of your child's life if you're refused permission to stay.
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Re: Switzerland?

Depends!

What do you both do for work? Would that be easy to find in Switzerland?

Do you like big cities, or small towns?
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Re: Switzerland?

Being from Haiti you may be fluent in french - that would mean one of the main hurdles is not an issue, namely, speaking the local language.
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Welcome and enjoy.
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Thank you. I'm in my last year of a bachelor degree in international economics, my wife is international student that´s why she is in Canada. I dont really have a career, i work since i moved here as a security guard so i could pay for what i need. Is it difficult to find a job with a canadian degree and also i am interested in doing a master. I dont know how hard it si to get accept into a swiss universities and work at the same time. I am now 26 years old

Yes, French is my first language

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Old 22.03.2015, 15:50
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Re: Switzerland?

Despite your wife having Swiss citizenship... For you to get a residence permit, she will have to show that she can support you. So she'll need a job or decent savings to bring you here as a dependant.
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Thank you. I'm in my last year of a bachelor degree in international economics, my wife is international student that´s why she is in Canada. I dont really have a career, i work since i moved here as a security guard so i could pay for what i need. Is it difficult to find a job with a canadian degree and also i am interested in doing a master. I dont know how hard it si to get accept into a swiss universities and work at the same time. I am now 26 years old
Depends on your grades. If you and your wife move here then you don't have the permit problem as a non-EU, but students can only work 15 hours a week max. Certainly a Bachelors only is unlikely to be good enough for the job market here, most employers prefer to see a Masters on your CV.

As Island Monkey says, your wife will be the main person so she needs to have a job here or sufficient financial resources to be able to support you. The usual figure to work to is CHF100 per day per person so you're talking in the region of CHF36,500 per year for 5 years (around CHF180,000) for your support if she doesn't get a job here. The requirements will be similar to these for EU nationals:

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta
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I am from Haiti (a country located in the caribbean), i immigrated to Canada 6 years ago, i met my wife here who's a swiss citizen, she wants to go back to Neuchâtel. We now live in Montreal and just have a baby, i need to know it
´s that a smart move to leave Canada for Switzerland?
Forget about moving here. You will most likely never feel as comfortable as in Canada. You will have a hard time looking for a job, you won't integrate as easily in Switzerland as you did in Canada and Switzerland isn't as multicultural as Canada. That's just my 2 cents....ultimately, it's your decision. Good luck and all the best to you.
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Old 22.03.2015, 23:29
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Re: Switzerland?

But if you do come, look at the areas from Geneva to Montreux instead of Neuchatel. It'll be easier for you to get a job here.

You could also think of getting your master's in Switzerland and then see if you like it or not.
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Re: Switzerland?

Has you wife still got much contact with Neuchâtel, family and friends? Because it can really help with networking and finding accommodation, etc.
Lausanne is a quite a bit larger, but finding an appartment is a total nightmare there. How will you earn money to keep yourself- prices are high in Switzerland, although Neuchâtel is much cheaper than Lausanne. I will have to look at the rules for immigration- but your wife, as a Swiss, will have to show you have the means to sustain your little family without social aid - as stated by MedeaFleecer. Neuchâtel is quite multi-cultural now btw.

Just depends on so many things though. If you do come and visit, make sure you come to nearby France and the Château de Joux near the town of Pontarlier, where the great Haiti Hero, Toussaint l'Ouverture, was imprisoned by Napoleon and died, on 7th of April 1803- for leading the insurrection against France and slavery.

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Forget about moving here. You will most likely never feel as comfortable as in Canada. You will have a hard time looking for a job, you won't integrate as easily in Switzerland as you did in Canada and Switzerland isn't as multicultural as Canada. That's just my 2 cents....ultimately, it's your decision. Good luck and all the best to you.

The Apartment block here has 23 Apartments, 10 nationalities, more than 5 languages and three or four races --- and so can hardly be beaten by any place in Montreal. And Canada has only two languages
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In the same way that Switzeland has only four.

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Has you wife still got much contact with Neuchâtel, family and friends? Because it can really help with networking and finding accommodation, etc.
Lausanne is a quite a bit larger, but finding an appartment is a total nightmare there. How will you earn money to keep yourself- prices are high in Switzerland, although Neuchâtel is much cheaper than Lausanne. I will have to look at the rules for immigration- but your wife, as a Swiss, will have to show you have the means to sustain your little family without social aid - as stated by MedeaFleecer. Neuchâtel is quite multi-cultural now btw.

Just depends on so many things though. If you do come and visit, make sure you come to nearby France and the Château de Joux near the town of Pontarlier, where the great Haiti Hero, Toussaint l'Ouverture, was imprisoned by Napoleon and died, on 7th of April 1803- for leading the insurrection against France and slavery.

Neuchâtel was as multicultural as anything by the Fin-de-Siècle but with WW-TWO and the start of air-travel lost a lot to the Lake-of-Geneva area (Geneva Lausanne Montreux)
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The Apartment block here has 23 Apartments, 10 nationalities, more than 5 languages and three or four races --- and so can hardly be beaten by any place in Montreal. And Canada has only two languages
Wolli, unless you know what you're talking about (which in most cases you don't), then please refrain from sharing errouneous information. For one, Switzerland is only defined as a very multicultural place because the country has one of the lowest naturalization rates in the western hemisphere. Hence you get 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants who still don't have Swiss citizenship. Furthermore, Canada's major cities are deemed some of the most diverse places on earth....you can't just compare a major international city to your apartment block.
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I am from Haiti (a country located in the caribbean), i immigrated to Canada 6 years ago, i met my wife here who's a swiss citizen, she wants to go back to Neuchâtel. We now live in Montreal and just have a baby, i need to know it
´s that a smart move to leave Canada for Switzerland?


You should seek some advise from the Swiss Embassy in CA to clarity what would be your visa status in Switzerland. If your marriage was registered in the CH embassy it'll make thinks a bit easier, but still it does not guarantee that you'll be able to find a job.

From the details you provided, moving to Switzerland with a baby and without a job will be really tough for you and your relationship, so you should perhaps establish first solid grounds in Canada before thinking of going elsewhere...

Once in CH your wife will be re-united with her family, friends, etc.... she'll get back to her "previous life", whereas you will become 100% dependent on your wife and that might have a negative effect on your relationship on the medium/long term.... In any case, it's good to give your wife's priorities a though, but do not rush , allow yourself some time to do research and to see things with a more "critical" eye! Good luck!!
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....you can't just compare a major international city to your apartment block.
You don't know Wolli
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The Apartment block here has 23 Apartments, 10 nationalities, more than 5 languages and three or four races --- and so can hardly be beaten by any place in Montreal. And Canada has only two languages
I grew up in Canada, in both the french and english parts. And aboriginal languages are actually official in many places. Inuktitut and Cree are official languages in Nunavut. I've seen ABMs in both Mandarin and Cantonese.

As for multiculturalism, there is nowhere else on Earth I think more people can feel at home. People will always make you feel like a pariah for being different due to a different religion, or skin colour, but these people are morons and deserve to be relegated to lives of boredom. Unfortunately, it seems more socially acceptable to do this in Switzerland... which might explain a few things.
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