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From the Mudwest

Good morning- we are settling into new apartment in Herrliberg. Moved from Indianapolis and Chicago area. Hoping to make friends and explore Europe.
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Old 17.04.2015, 13:21
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Re: From the Mudwest

A warm welcome to Switzerland and the EF from a part-time north-eastern Mudwesterner (Grand Traverse Bay Area, northern Lower Michigan).
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Re: From the Midwest

Thanks for the reply. I haven't met to many folks from the midwest of the United States here. Finding lots from east/west coast. We are here due to work but don't know for how long-the expat life. It was really nice of you to drop us a note and to say welcome.
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Re: From the Mudwest

And another welcome from fellow Midwesterner (and an honorary Hoosier to boot) now living across the way in Ausserschwyz. Or Mudville am See, as we call it 'round this time o' year.

Hope you enjoy your Swiss adventure!
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Re: From the Mudwest

Of the course there are not many Midwesterners in Switzerland. There are not that many people from anywhere in Switzerland, including Swiss. Switzerland has fewer inhabitants than Michigan.

Anyway, there are quite a few Midwesterners on EF, actually amazingly many. But usually what counts on this forum is not where you came from.

Once you've developed a bit of an elephant skin to fend off the usual newbie bashing, learned how to use the search function, don't call this country "Swiss", stop trying to find Black Angus steaks even if you can afford them, forget about s'mores because there's no Hershey's, no Graham cracker's and practically no marshmallows, undestand that crunchy bread is not stale but absolutely fresh, etc., etc., you'll realize that we actually are a fairly nice bunch.

Most of the time anyway.

Ok, fairly often, then.

Sometimes maybe.

I know it happened once or twice.

Never mind.
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Re: From the Mudwest

Working on traveling and enjoying Europe during the expat stay in Switzerland. Living in Switzerland has been an adjustment and my greatest hope is that I make just a few more of them smile. Be kind and hope for kindness back. Being here without kids or a dog is fun but also challenging in the area I live in. Finding it more difficult to meet and make friends, so traveling has to fill in the gaps. Oh well, life is about the adventure and going to make the best of it until I have to return to the midwest of the United States.
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Old 17.04.2015, 18:38
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Thanks for the reply. I haven't met to many folks from the midwest of the United States here. Finding lots from east/west coast. We are here due to work but don't know for how long-the expat life. It was really nice of you to drop us a note and to say welcome.
Although Switzerland is comparable to the Midwest. It is the Midwest of Europe. No beaches. Welcome, and you'll likely get along just fine.
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Re: From the Mudwest

Just taking it one day at a time and seeing what unfolds. Today was better than yesterday. I find that as time goes by, I feel more settled and have accepted the days that are quiet and I am alone. I can read, talk a long walk on the many paths and sometimes enjoy some time in the sun. Wish that the sun would hang out more and the rain would go away more. Switzerland-just gotta embrace it and enjoy the time you have here as an expat.
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Re: From the Mudwest

It really helped me to join a few things when I arrived so that I would have something on my calendar. Check out Meetup - http://www.meetup.com for activities. There are American / International Clubs - ZIWA and AWCZ and ACZ. Look here on EF for activities, too. Join a German class.

Have fun!
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Re: From the Mudwest

Thank you for all the helpful tips for getting settle. I really appreciate the help and direction. With traveling so much it makes it difficult and I am aware that it doesn't help to feel settled. So, as I say, one day at a time. Being an open person really helps and I tend to meet people fairly easily. I know that I won't live forever in Switzerland so I keep an open mind. Thanks everyone for your tips, advise and suggestions. Love that so many are honest and willing to share. Have a great Friday evening-even though it is raining-make it a good Friday night.
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Re: From the Mudwest

Welcome to Zurich! I'm also from the midwest (Chicago) and have found the winters a lot more accommodating here!
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Good morning- we are settling into new apartment in Herrliberg. Moved from Indianapolis and Chicago area. Hoping to make friends and explore Europe.

Welcome to Zürich, in fact to the place of the Ayatollah from Herrliberg, also known as Christoph Blocher. A schoolfriend of GrandDad lived in Indianapolis from about 1905 until death in about 1950. The two had a letter exchange about every third year, not a very exciting stuff, but what mattered is that they kept in touch
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Welcome to Zurich! I'm also from the midwest (Chicago) and have found the winters a lot more accommodating here!


The winters are more moderate as the mountain chains in Europe are West-to-Êast and block the cold weather, while the Rockies and the Appalachians are North-to-South and so enhance the cold streams. In fact, Zürich Airport for decades took advice and even equipment from Chicago O'Hare
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Although Switzerland is comparable to the Midwest. It is the Midwest of Europe. No beaches. Welcome, and you'll likely get along just fine.
The Midwest has beaches! On lakes bigger than Switzerland, no less. No mountains, though.

As a plus, we do get more sun here in Switzerland, and the climate is milder.

(Wisconsin boy, schooled at Purdue, spent my US working life in Chicago)
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Re: From the Mudwest

Thanks for all the wonderful post from other Midwest folks. I enjoyed the sun shine yesterday (Sunday) in the hill above my apartment. So many wonderful paths to walk and it was a beautiful day to be outside. I really need to either have a dog or kids to really fit in. HA Both I have had, but neither are here in Switzerland with me. Thanks again for your post and I appreciate the contacts. Enjoy Monday and the sunshine again!
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The Midwest has beaches! On lakes bigger than Switzerland, no less. No mountains, though.

As a plus, we do get more sun here in Switzerland, and the climate is milder.

(Wisconsin boy, schooled at Purdue, spent my US working life in Chicago)
Right, I remember people trying to surf Lake Michigan during a windy storm. They got to ride for a couple of seconds.
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The Midwest has beaches! On lakes bigger than Switzerland, no less.
Honestly, I initially thought that Phos had just forgotten to type the "though" after "No beaches."

We have a total of about 250 miles of mostly sandy beaches to the left and right of our home on Lake Michigan. And there are about as many on the other side of the Big Blue, not to mention the other Great Lakes and about 11,000 smaller lakes in Michigan alone. Only Minnesota has more lakes, bot only a tiny bit of frontage on one of the Great Lakes.

Besides that, Michigan has by far the highest rate of registered boats per capita in the entire USA and Canada, namely about 100 boats per 1,000 inhabitants (runner-up: California with about 25 / 1,000). Including the smaller, non-registered boats (less than 16 feet long, like kayaks, canoes, sailing dinghies etc.), there may be about one boat per average household. Ours has three.
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Right, I remember people trying to surf Lake Michigan during a windy storm. They got to ride for a couple of seconds.
Lake Michigan? Lake Erie is where the Midwest surfers go.
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Re: From the Mudwest

MN born and raised here. Children are all Hoosiers. All of the family (both sides) still in MN and WI. Work and school in Chi town. Seems like we should have met sometime in the past.


GO VIKES and welcome to the forum!


as for beaches:


"Minnesota Point (Duluth) is approximately 7 miles in length, and when included with adjacent Wisconsin Point, which extends 3 miles out from the city of Superior, Wisconsin, is reported to be the largest freshwater sand spit in the world at a total of 10 miles."







Of course one can only swim in Lake Superior for 3 months out of the year...


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