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We are getting transferred to the Baar Switzerland area and we are from Texas...its for 2-3 years.
Questions - where do you get your hair done? Colored? what about manicures/pedicures. Does anyone do their lashes there?
We heard everything is smaller from the closets to the refrigerators to the living space. We are hoping to rent a furnished apartment - is this even feasible?
Are people friendly?
Is it community? Neighborly?
What about going to the doctor or dentist? Is this difficult?
Where do you meet others?
Are there churches? If so, what kind?
We are both early 50's and have no kiddos with us...
Any ideas? Input?
Best place to live? Heard trains are loud...would prefer to not have that..but will not complain if we do.
What about internet...and weather???
Thanks and have an AMAZING week...
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Yes Switzerland has hairdressers, beauticians, doctors, dentists, Internet and churches.

Trains are electric so not very noisy.

Weather is cold in winter warm in summer.
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Oh dear, where to start. Welcome I guess is the best place so welcome to the forum and soon to Switzerland. Ex-Okie here so know your part of the States somewhat as we often vacationed in Texas.

There are a lot of sticky threads here on the forum which will have info/recommendations for things like doctors, dentists, etc, who speak English. I also suggest you get hold of a copy of "Living and Working in Switzerland" by David Hampshire. It's full of useful info for both before and after you move here. You can order it from your local bookshop or via the Internet.

To take your questions one by one:
Hairdressers same as anywhere else and yes there are nail shops and places where you can get lashes done.
Yes, things are smaller here so don't expect a big place to rent. Fridges will usually be a fridge with only a small two shelf freezer section, although you can find places that have a bigger freezer section in the bottom half with a smaller fridge part on the top half. Unless you get a fairly new place the main "shock" will be the communal laundry facilities that most apartment blocks have here. You'll be allocated a day and time slot to do your washing and unless the machine happens to be free at another time, that'll be it until your slot comes around the following week. Furnished places are possible. Have a look at these websites to see what's available in the Baar area so you get an idea of size and price.

www.immoscout24.ch
www.immostreet.ch
www.homegate.ch
www.home.ch

Here rooms like kitchens, bathrooms, aren't counted in the total in adverts so you need to look for 2 rooms (living and bedroom), 2.5 (living/dining room combined and bedroom) or possibly 3 which could be either living, separate dining room and bedroom or living room and 2 bedrooms - check the actual description to make sure. 3.5 will be a living/dining combined and 2 bedrooms.

You'll find friendly people and not friendly people, same as anywhere else.
Check for English speaking groups in/near where you settle down as they usually have lots of events throughout the year and also check down in the Events part of the forum to see what's going on.
Plenty of churches of all denominations, but whether there'll be one with services in English near you is another question.
Trains are not loud as they're all electric powered so much quieter than the American ones.
Yes, there's Internet.
Weather, not as hot as Texas though can get up into the mid-30s Celsius (mid-90s Farhenheit) in the summer. No air conditioning though so it will feel just as hot if not hotter. Nowhere near as cold either.

I'm sure you'll have other questions before you get here so have a search around the forum as someone's probably asked it already or simply ask.

Try and start learning German before you come, even a few words will help and of course most of the documents you see will be in German - rental contract, car lease, health insurance, etc.

Another thing to note is that Americans are required to continue filing US tax returns no matter where they live in the world and may owe US tax on top of local taxes. You'll also need to file a FBAR form for the "foreign", i.e. outside of US, bank accounts you have if the aggregate total comes to more than $10,000 at any time of the year.

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Inter...-Aliens-Abroad

Also note that you'll need to sign a W-9 form to allow your Swiss bank to send the account info on to the IRS.

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We are getting transferred to the Baar Switzerland area and we are from Texas...its for 2-3 years.
Questions - where do you get your hair done? Colored? what about manicures/pedicures. Does anyone do their lashes there?
We heard everything is smaller from the closets to the refrigerators to the living space. We are hoping to rent a furnished apartment - is this even feasible?
Are people friendly?
Is it community? Neighborly?
What about going to the doctor or dentist? Is this difficult?
Where do you meet others?
Are there churches? If so, what kind?
We are both early 50's and have no kiddos with us...
Any ideas? Input?
Best place to live? Heard trains are loud...would prefer to not have that..but will not complain if we do.
What about internet...and weather???
Thanks and have an AMAZING week...
d
Surprisingly, most questions have been asked previously ..... many times.
A good place to start is to find the relevant sub-forum and have a look at the 'stickies' at the top of each, then, if the information required is not obvious, you could try a search of that forum, entering specific keywords.

Other basic stuff is easily found on google - weather, trains, etc.

One of the above made me laugh ..... 'What about internet?' ..... It's crap - there's too much rubbish on it (... and as for dial up ...).
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Re: Questions about everything

Where do you get your hair done? Colored? what about manicures/pedicures. Does anyone do their lashes there?
You will have no trouble finding places to do all these things once you are here. Just be aware that it'll probably cost double what you pay in Texas unless you go to Great Clips and then you are in real trouble!

We heard everything is smaller from the closets to the refrigerators to the living space.
True.

We are hoping to rent a furnished apartment - is this even feasible?
I'm not sure if you can find furnished places or not but check out Homegate.ch to get an idea of what's available.

Are people friendly?
Like everywhere else in the world, some are and some aren't.

Is it community? Neighborly?
It is definitely a community feel here in Switzerland, much like small towns in the US. Depending on your neighbours, you will be welcomed into that or you will be shut out. Learning to speak some German before you arrive will help alot.

What about going to the doctor or dentist? Is this difficult?
Easy and I've found the care here to be amazing. Search the forum to get more specifics but this doesn't need to be a worry.

Where do you meet others?
ZIWA - Zurich International Women's Group is great for the misses if she isn't working. Google it or message me. Meet Ups, Forum activities, church, community activities, Starbucks, work, etc.

Are there churches? If so, what kind?
LOL. Sorry but once you are here you will understand why I laugh. Yes, there are churches. Most towns have several which you will begin to hear probably minutes after arriving.

We are both early 50's and have no kiddos with us...
Any ideas? Input?
On what? traveling? Get a GA (train pass could for everything, everywhere for 1 year) and see all of Switzerland.

Best place to live? Heard trains are loud...would prefer to not have that..but will not complain if we do.
Totally a personal choice. If your place has good windows you might not mind the trains. Being close to a station is great unless you plan to drive everywhere (a whole other can of worms). possible, I'd come over before you move and look for yourself in several different areas. Check bus and train schedules. How close is a grocery store? Depends on where hubby is working, etc.

What about internet...and weather???
Yes, we have both.

Thanks and have an AMAZING week...

Welcome! Enjoy your journey!

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Sometimes I wonder where people lived before they came to Switzerland or if they think Switzerland is a 3rd world country (Swaziland?)

However, welcome and good luck.
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Sometimes I wonder where people lived before they came to Switzerland or if they think Switzerland is a 3rd world country (Swaziland?)

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Anyone would think there was no Internet.
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Sometimes I wonder where people lived before they came to Switzerland or if they think Switzerland is a 3rd world country (Swaziland?)

However, welcome and good luck.
Well that'll explain the odd looks I got when I turned up in a grass skirt the first day of work - and why finding a copy of "Living and Working in Swaziland" was just so bloody difficult.
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Re: Questions about everything

One book that I recommend that I found very helpful and had answers to almost everything that I needed to know is called, "Living in Zurich" A publication of the American's Women's Club in Zurich. Being from the states I know that there are many things that I didn't know and had to learn. My only expat comment is "give it time". I have been here 15 months and it was rough for the first year-it just takes time.
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Welcome to the Forum. It's an exciting and strange adventure to up sticks and move to Switzerland, so just take a deep breath. There's a lot of information here as mentioned above. Search box is in the upper right corner of your screen, and you'll have better luck with a few key words instead of an entire phrase. Also try the advanced and Google-powered searches.

To address a few of your questions with examples

1. I get my hair cut at the local, privately owned hair salon. A haircut for a lady can run from 40-80 Francs, depending on the length of your hair. Wash, dry, and style costs extra. Color starts around 60 and goes up from there. Last time I had the full treatment (cut, color, style) it ran 160 Francs. There are not a lot of chains here, so most places require appointments as opposed to taking walk-ins.

2. Nothing here is Texas-sized. Closets are almost non-existent. Folks here generally use armoires/cabinets. The least expensive ones are probably from IKEA. The fridges here are small, so you may find it helpful to buy a small freezer to keep in your cellar (if there's power). Compared to the U.S. we make more frequent small shops instead of a big weekly shop.

3. Doctor or dentist isn't difficult per se, except the language barrier can be a hassle and the costs can make your eyes water. Many insurance plans require you to pay the bill in full up front and then they reimburse you, so budget for that. Example: A doctor's visit for bronchitis cost me 270 Francs including the tests and medications.

4. Weather is a favorite topic of conversation here. We've got a nice big thread about it too: Weather!
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3. Doctor or dentist isn't difficult per se, except the language barrier can be a hassle and the costs can make your eyes water.
Not true for dentists. If apples are compared to apples, dentistry is more expensive in the USA. I think I know what I talking about because it's my trade.

When I see what my American friends have to pay for simple dental therapies, I feel like an idiot for not having earned my money in the USA.
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Baar is the capital of hairdressers, tons of them, slightly more than decent bars and restaurants. It will take you a few months to check them all out!
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Thank yawl so much.
In no way do I see Switzerland as a third world country. Please forgive me if that is how it came across. I write my questions when I was exhausted about 1 am and just was doing more bullet points than anything.

Thanks to you who understood about the Internet and told me how slow it is.,,that's important info if you do the kind of work I do so I appreciate knowing ahead of time.

I'm hoping to come in June for a quick look are but not sure yet.

Blessings to all!!!!!
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Thank yawl so much.
In no way do I see Switzerland as a third world country. Please forgive me if that is how it came across. I write my questions when I was exhausted about 1 am and just was doing more bullet points than anything.

Thanks to you who understood about the Internet and told me how slow it is.,,that's important info if you do the kind of work I do so I appreciate knowing ahead of time.

I'm hoping to come in June for a quick look are but not sure yet.

Blessings to all!!!!!
I don't think internet is slow in Switzerland, I was using a 1 Gbit/s connection when I was last in the country. Even on mobile I was getting 40 Mbit/s.
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I don't think internet is slow in Switzerland, I was using a 1 Gbit/s connection when I was last in the country. Even on mobile I was getting 40 Mbit/s.
It's not. TiMow was winding her up ( as is his wont).
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Not true for dentists. If apples are compared to apples, dentistry is more expensive in the USA. I think I know what I talking about because it's my trade.

When I see what my American friends have to pay for simple dental therapies, I feel like an idiot for not having earned my money in the USA.
My apologies for lumping doctors and dentists together. My statement is based upon my experience here, which is admittedly a bit limited with dentists. When I looked into the cost of a crown here with a local dentist, I was told it would probably be 1200 Francs. Back home in the U.S. it's half that price or even less. I didn't bother to look for another dentist here based on that.
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Sometimes I wonder where people lived before they came to Switzerland or if they think Switzerland is a 3rd world country (Swaziland?)
Reminds me of a phone call I made from Germany, many years ago, to an estate agent's assistant in a small town in the North of England, who clearly had no idea about Abroad. She asked me to spell my postal address, so I slowly spelled it out: "1-0-9-6-7-space...". "Space!", she interrupted. No, I said. I mean that there's a space before the next word.
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To be fair to donnareiners, coming from the next state "up" and being slightly older than she states, I probably would be asking the same questions if I were in her shoes. Although I expect (hope) that the news coverage these days is more international when I was a kid/teenager in the States our local news channels covering something that happened in New York or Los Angeles was fairly rare, never mind anything regarding the world beyond the US's borders. When you're nearly 1,500 miles from both the Atlantic and Pacific coasts news from the rest of the world had to pretty major to make it onto our TV channels!

Internet speeds are pretty quick in the cities, but will probably be slower if you move away from them. We're just 10kms (6-7 miles) from Fribourg and our average speed is around 800kps if that means anything to you. It certainly doesn't to me.

One thing to be wary of is living too near to a church or clock tower. I understand you'll probably want to attend church services, but here the churches ring their bells, clock chimes are often hourly and some chime quarter hours too and do this all through the night as well.
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To be fair to donnareiners, coming from the next state "up" and being slightly older than she states, I probably would be asking the same questions if I were in her shoes. Although I expect (hope) that the news coverage these days is more international when I was a kid/teenager in the States our local news channels covering something that happened in New York or Los Angeles was fairly rare, never mind anything regarding the world beyond the US's borders. When you're nearly 1,500 miles from both the Atlantic and Pacific coasts news from the rest of the world had to pretty major to make it onto our TV channels!

Internet speeds are pretty quick in the cities, but will probably be slower if you move away from them. We're just 10kms (6-7 miles) from Fribourg and our average speed is around 800kps if that means anything to you. It certainly doesn't to me.

One thing to be wary of is living too near to a church or clock tower. I understand you'll probably want to attend church services, but here the churches ring their bells, clock chimes are often hourly and some chime quarter hours too and do this all through the night as well.
I am sure you could get much faster internet, that's a typical speed in France
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