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Hello, my name is John i am 32yrs, i have a Bachelors in arts and media. I am a freelance graphic designer, paying the bills through part time retail.

I have found a wonderful woman and am planning to move to (a tiny french speaking city) Delemont later this year.

I am on this forum because i am truly ignorant as to how to approach the job market in Switzerland, i am adequate at french, i have been told to learn german ( i appreciate the advise but nah bro).

If any one has some wise words and sage advise i would truly appreciate it.

specifically anyone in the creative industry who has experience in the world of graphics and images.

Lacking that I would be grateful for any options and avenues.

love is on the line.

true love.

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Question 1: Does your true love know you're moving to Switzerland?
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Question 1: Does your true love know you're moving to Switzerland?
yes, it is a mutual decision.
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Old 30.05.2015, 12:49
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If any one has some wise words and sage advise i would truly appreciate it.

specifically anyone in the creative industry who has experience in the world of graphics and images.
Congratulations. I find the creative industry here to be tightly integrated with vertical industries. The successful ones I've met specialize in food, consumer, luxury watch brands, etc. Also, these careers are normally developed here through internship, so it may be hard for an outsider to crack. Many of the locals tend to look outside of Switzerland for more dynamic opportunities. I know of a number of youngsters who have been dissuaded from creative careers, by school counselors, due to the lack of creative internships. There are freelancers, but its job-to-job after developing a network. I think the most sustainable careers would be in-house employment with a corporation. Yet I have seen some who have rebranded themselves as entrepreneur artists.

But timing is everything, and your mileage may vary.

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Re: Kiwi guy imagines life with Incredible swiss girl...

Welcome to the forum. As a New Zealand citizen you don't need a visa, but you to need a pre-approved permit to be able to live/work here.

"New Zealand citizens who wish to study, work or simply stay more than 90 days in Switzerland can also enter Switzerland without a visa but require a residence permit and need to directly contact the cantonal migration authority of the canton (states) where they wish to study, work or stay. For further information, please see the document "Visa Waiver for New Zealanders for long-term stays in Switzerland"."

https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/n...ency/visa.html

So contact the canton migration office in Delemont to find out what you need to do to get a permit.

Another couple of alternative routes: get hired by a Swiss based firm or your girlfriend can apply for a concubine permit for you.

Jobwise, non-EU nationals are at the back of the hiring queue as priority is given to Swiss/EU nationals and anyone else already living here with a valid permit. The criteria for being hired is outlined here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home/themen/arbeit/nicht-eu_efta-angehoerige/grundlagen_zur_arbeitsmarktzulassung.html

and the procedure here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home/themen/arbeit/nicht-eu_efta-angehoerige/verfahrensablauf.html

If the application is successful then you'll be able to move here.

the second option - the concubine permit - means your girlfriend needs to apply for this at the cantonal migration office. Be warned, they'll be looking for a long term, committed relationship of several years' standing and will ask a lot of personal questions before any permit is granted. Here's Vaud canton's info on the permit. I expect Jura canton where Delemont is located will be similar.

http://www.vd.ch/themes/vie-privee/population-etrangere/entree-et-sejour/etats-tiers/sejour-aupres-du-concubin/
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Re: Kiwi guy imagines life with Incredible swiss girl...

Let's talk seriously here: it's Delémont, canton of Jura, so learn French. Really.

Serious French, not tourist French. Yes, English is the international language, but in Jura, its French.
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Re: Kiwi guy imagines life with Incredible swiss girl...

I believe OP is asking about the job market for his line of work.
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I believe OP is asking about the job market for his line of work.
Even for breathing in Jura, you need French. So whatever his line of work is, in Jura, French is the only religion one needs. Worshiping NOT optional. I know that it's irrational, that was my point. And no, "adequate French" won't do it, we're talking serious French.
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Even for breathing in Jura, you need French. So whatever his line of work is, in Jura, French is the only religion one needs. Worshiping NOT optional. I know that it's irrational, that was my point. And no, "adequate French" won't do it, we're talking serious French.
I think it's safe to assume that the OP is not dating a "Bourbon" who thinks
Delémont looks like a nice town and is knows as little French as he does. Presumedly, she is a native French speaker so she will be a big help in learning French and integrating with the natives. Does anybody in the forum have any suggesting for him finding a job in or near Delémont while his French still needs improving?

Finally, if the OP can reach the point where he not only understands this video, but also gets the references, he's probably reached the stage of "serious French":

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Re: Kiwi guy imagines life with Incredible swiss girl...

Basel is an easy commute from Delemont so the OP could look for jobs there too.
There will likely be more jobs for English speakers in Basel than there are in Delemont but Basel is German rather than French speaking.
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Presumedly, she is a native French speaker so she will be a big help in learning French and integrating with the natives.
Of course, but from all the places in Switzerland, Jura is definitely the place with the most dogmatic approach to the local language. Even I as French native felt it because I was together with a German.
I wouldn't warn as strongly about the local language for any other canton, but Jura is definitely different. It's charming, but it's strong. That's all.
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Re: Kiwi guy imagines life with Incredible swiss girl...

Thank you everyone for your replies, it has been educational...so French French is a must for Delemont, It looks like work will be in a larger city Basel perhaps.

Thank you Medea Fleecestealer for your in-depth reply i am currently reviewing your links.

I am looking at available opportunities online to apply to remotely from NZ, considering perhaps an internship somewhere.

also i must brush up on my French French. French.
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