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Hello to all!

Hi everyone

I would just like to introduce myself. I've been reading over this forum for quite a while now, and thought I probably should actually join up and say how great a resource it truly is.

My research is a little pre-emptive, as I am planning on moving to Switzerland in around 2 or 3 years time. But I like to know what I am getting into and also the ways in which people have approached similar situations to which I will find myself.

A little background information: at 25 years old, I am currently part way through my ICAEW accountancy studies (going strong and will be happy when it's finally done with the ACA letters coming after of my name). Currently living in London's west end (Holland Park/West Kensington if anybody is interested). With a strong penchant for financial services and a very keen interest within the investment world.

I have visited Switzerland on various occasions over the last 7 or 8 years, and I must admit that I fell in love with it almost instantly. The views and surroundings are spectacular and the life style, although yes certain aspects are expensive (yet relatable to where I currently live), I think in many ways are second to none. Although I have only ever really dealt with certain areas (Geneva, Lausanne, Montreux, Nyon mainly) would generally look at relocating to somewhere around Geneva, but am completely open to ideas as to other regions (maybe better for the work I do?).

Already putting into place a lot of plans in anticipation of relocation to do with various financials that I hold, and am looking into learning the local languages.

As you may be able to tell I am pretty dead set on making the jump, and I look forward to maybe meeting some of you in person (albeit a few years from now)!

If anyone has any advice on the best things to make sure are in place, please do feel free to speak up, as undoubtedly there are things that I will have not thought about as yet.

Once again I would like to thank everyone for making this forum such an excellent place to read over. A place where everyone seems to genuinely want to help others, it's quite refreshing to see.

All the best
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Old 04.08.2015, 13:11
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Re: Hello to all!

Welcome to the Forum.
Someone who looks before they leap. Excellent idea.
Hope all goes well with your planning. You certainly seem to have some good ideas about preparation. Get those languages going. Have fun and stick around on here.
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Thank you for the welcome Longbyt
Always nice to be one step ahead.
I most certainly will be getting those languages going, I just need to decide which to focus on first.
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Old 05.08.2015, 17:29
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Welcome Woolley!

I've been in Geneva since 2008 although I had a couple of years post-qualification experience, but rather less planning went into it than you seem to be doing

Good luck with the last of the exams and hopefully your plans work out - I would agree that quality of life in Geneva is pretty amazing as long as you can find a reasonably good job.
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Thank you very much GenevaSculler

That's my only concern at the moment, I'll be coming over fairly newly-qualified, I'll make another post in the relevant sub-section regarding this, but I've managed to do a lot in a very short space of time.

I must say that I do love Geneva, and when I do relocate, the first rounds on me if you're up for it! (The same goes for anyone that would care to join, it's always nice to meet new folks)
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Thank you very much GenevaSculler

That's my only concern at the moment, I'll be coming over fairly newly-qualified, I'll make another post in the relevant sub-section regarding this, but I've managed to do a lot in a very short space of time.

I must say that I do love Geneva, and when I do relocate, the first rounds on me if you're up for it! (The same goes for anyone that would care to join, it's always nice to meet new folks)
Are you sure you're up for buying rounds for an open audience... if you thought London beer was expensive...

Just to note, the majority of finance jobs are Zurich-based, though I see quite a few in Geneva also. That doesn't really help with your language decision though!

Welcome to the forum, if not yet to Switzerland
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Hello,

Glad to see that you are trying to prepare yourself as early as possible.

In regards to some of your concerns, please know that the job market is very much leaning towards to the type of diploma you have. In some countries, they have to get an official certification (usually made from Bern) in order to prove the qualifications you may have.

Being from London, I'm guessing you should not have so much problem to bring value to your credentials. As well, the languages are a big plus. If you can learn one of the languages beforehand (French or German) depending on where you wish to concentrate your job search (Geneva or Zürich) in case of Financial services positions.

Note as well that salary conditions vary from one place to the other. You are more likely to get better paid in Zürich with less taxes than in Geneva.

There are website to compare the costs of living with calculations to help get an idea as to what you'll end up paying in local taxes. (www.comparis.ch)

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Are you sure you're up for buying rounds for an open audience... if you thought London beer was expensive...

Just to note, the majority of finance jobs are Zurich-based, though I see quite a few in Geneva also. That doesn't really help with your language decision though!

Welcome to the forum, if not yet to Switzerland
The more the merrier! You only do something like this once, so why not always nice to make a few new friends

Yes, I'd seen that the majority seem to be Zurich based, which wouldn't really bother me too much, I just don't have much experience of the area (yet). Ah, the language debate. I keep switching back and forth between one and the other at the moment. I'm hoping to learn both to be honest, may be pushing it a little, but I always try.

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Glad to see that you are trying to prepare yourself as early as possible.

In regards to some of your concerns, please know that the job market is very much leaning towards to the type of diploma you have. In some countries, they have to get an official certification (usually made from Bern) in order to prove the qualifications you may have.

Being from London, I'm guessing you should not have so much problem to bring value to your credentials. As well, the languages are a big plus. If you can learn one of the languages beforehand (French or German) depending on where you wish to concentrate your job search (Geneva or Zürich) in case of Financial services positions.

Note as well that salary conditions vary from one place to the other. You are more likely to get better paid in Zürich with less taxes than in Geneva.

There are website to compare the costs of living with calculations to help get an idea as to what you'll end up paying in local taxes. (www.comparis.ch)

All the best,

Nico
I know that the qual. should help me out a long way in theory, but I suppose it depends on the type of services I can get into. I'm personally leaning heavily toward the investments sector at the moment, but I love what I do so am happy either way.

The tax issues are something that I am looking into i.e. where to live and work for the greater benefit. Thank you for the link, I'll take a look and hopefully it will help me out.
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Re: Hello to all!

Come to Geneva! I'm in for the beer invite!


As you are a forward planner, start looking at rents...on second thought, don't, or you won't be paying us a round of drinks, and move forward another 5 or 6 years, if you have kids, start booking your school now.


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Come to Geneva! I'm in for the beer invite!


As you are a forward planner, start looking at rents...on second thought, don't, or you won't be paying us a round of drinks, and move forward another 5 or 6 years, if you have kids, start booking your school now.


International School of Geneva is top!
Beer. The thing that always brings the people together unless there has been a little too much I suppose

I've been looking at rents, just to get a general idea for the kind of price bracket for the sort of property I would go for. I've heard a lot of horror stories about how expensive the rents etc are. Surprisingly, I didn't think it was actually that bad! Just about on par with what I'm used to.

Kids not just yet, but not something to be ruled out.
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Beer. The thing that always brings the people together unless there has been a little too much I suppose

I've been looking at rents, just to get a general idea for the kind of price bracket for the sort of property I would go for. I've heard a lot of horror stories about how expensive the rents etc are. Surprisingly, I didn't think it was actually that bad! Just about on par with what I'm used to.

Kids not just yet, but not something to be ruled out.
Coming from London, it is unlikely that the big overheads will shock you (transport, housing, etc) - in fact, I find them much more reasonable. It's the day to day food, toiletries, clothing, homeware (though importantly, alcohol in a supermarket is cheap). And eating and drinking out still surprise me, 2 months in...
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Coming from London, it is unlikely that the big overheads will shock you (transport, housing, etc) - in fact, I find them much more reasonable. It's the day to day food, toiletries, clothing, homeware (though importantly, alcohol in a supermarket is cheap). And eating and drinking out still surprise me, 2 months in...
I can see where the reasonable thoughts come into it. It actually works out to be costing less, for a larger space. I've noticed on my little excursions on the price of clothing, toiletries and homeware etc.

Thank you for the heads up though, nice to know that the alcohol in the shops is cheaper. Need to keep the beer fridge stocked, and if I can get a nice bottle of scotch, I'm a happy man
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