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Just came from Lithuania with two dogs:)

Hello! A bit of introduction... I just came from my nice Baltic country Lithuania. I came to Switzerland to join my boyfriend. I found this very interesting forum and hope also will find some new friends. I live in small village Berneck, SG CANTON, I am 29 years old, professional violinist. For this moment I don't speak german...Just a bit english and russian.
I came here with two dogs and one cat. This is my big passion- animals. Dog shows, grooming, training... SO maybe there are people who are organizing some meetings with dogs..or going to train them somewhere...( I will be very happy to join you!). So... new live started in Switzerland
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SO maybe there are people who are organizing some meetings with dogs..or going to train them somewhere...( I will be very happy to join you!).)

You are in luck - because you will need to do the mandatory dog training classes, where hopefully you will meet a few kindred spirits. So get those out of the way off the bat - a good introduction to Switzerland and your community.

I won't bore EFers with a repeat of other posts explaining what the SKN classes are, but you can read all about what is required of you and your dogs in the Pets Corner, just search for the term 'SKN', Sachkundenachweis.

I met most of the people who have become friends here through the Hundeschule. We have been doing Familienhund for 10 years now, as well as various dog sports (fun only - I am not interested in competition, and certainly not talented enough) - the dogs have pretty much been the anchor to my Swiss social life.

Wishing you and your family - four footers included - all the best as you settle in.
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You are in luck - because you will need to do the mandatory dog training classes, where hopefully you will meet a few kindred spirits. So get those out of the way off the bat - a good introduction to Switzerland and your community.

I won't bore EFers with a repeat of other posts explaining what the SKN classes are, but you can read all about what is required of you and your dogs in the Pets Corner, just search for the term 'SKN', Sachkundenachweis.

I met most of the people who have become friends here through the Hundeschule. We have been doing Familienhund for 10 years now, as well as various dog sports (fun only - I am not interested in competition, and certainly not talented enough) - the dogs have pretty much been the anchor to my Swiss social life.

Wishing you and your family - four footers included - all the best as you settle in.
Thank you very much for the tips! I already red about this SKN courses in your posts. Just I have doubt about... I had dogs before 2008 (actually not one), I did a lot of trainings in my country, i am breeder also... Do I really need it? You told that it is possibilities to get this certificate without this course? (to prove that I have experience and had owned dogs before 2008...)...
I don't say that I don't want this good introduction to Switzerland. But I will be more interested to do more serious training than some SKN course what perhaps I know already better
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Re: Just came from Lithuania with two dogs:)

As a non-first time dog owner you need to contact the SG cantonal Veterinäramt with your proof of ownership for a decision on whether or not you can be excused from the SKN Theory course. The decision is made on individual cases, we have seen experienced folks told they must take the course, and we have seen experienced folks excused.

You will likely have to take the SKN Practical course, depending on the ages of your dogs. Technically it applies to all dogs acquired after 1 Sept 2008; however there is a variance of practice in how that applies to people who move to Switzerland after that date with dogs they acquired before that date. Most such newcomers I have spoken to have who have tried to get out of the practical classes have been told to take them, I think I can only remember two cases where someone has been excused, and those were with very elderly dogs. You will find that so much in Switzerland boils down to how the individual official interprets the regs in an individual case.

Again, contact the SG cantonal Veterinäramt for a ruling on your specific circumstances.

But that said...

And y'all know what I'm going to say here, dontcha...

Whether you are excused or not, it really would be foolish for a newcomer to Switzerland not to take the courses. The course are short, 2 sessions for the theory and 4-5 for the practical. The courses are very inexpensive, under CHF 200 each. There is no test, simple attendence is all that is required. The courses are indeed very basic, you will already know most of the 'dog' material... but you won't know the 'Switzerland' material. And it's the 'Switzerland' material that is so very, very important.

Really, the courses are so easy for an experienced dog owner, and I have found them lots of fun, so I always wonder what all the fuss is about, why so many newbies baulk at a tailor-made chance to make inroads into their new home's society.

I am fortunate that I have a great trainer; I have taken the practical course three times now, as it has to be done with each and every dog acquired after the enforcement date.

This is the easiest possible way to learn all you need to know about how Switzerland views dog ownership, what Swiss society expects of you as a dog owner, what the laws are - which might indeed be very different from what is expected of you at home.

If you want to start off on the right foot here in Switzerland, I strongly suggest taking the classes.

And then go on to further training or sports. There are so many possibilities...

Again, all the best as you settle in.


ETA:

In your other post you mentioned wanting to offer dog care - again another reason to take the SKN courses, as you need to have these in order to care for dogs in return for payment.

And I do hope you start a dog care business - there is so much need, especially in your area.

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Re: Just came from Lithuania with two dogs:)

Thank you, meloncolie. I really appreciate your advices. I just came here, so for now just need to get used what is expensive,what is not Because everything sounds a bit crazy,especially after my country. And as I don't speak German for this moment-will try to find classes at least in English. (I don't expect Russian or lithuanian ). Thank you very much one more time and next step- hundeshule
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Thank you, meloncolie. I really appreciate your advices. I just came here, so for now just need to get used what is expensive,what is not Because everything sounds a bit crazy,especially after my country.
Don't worry, the sticker shock starts to wear off after a while - or you do as I do and spend every spare Rappen on the dogs.

There are SKN trainers who do the courses in English, but I'm not sure who out your way. I know EF members have recommended several in the Zürich area; can you travel a bit?

You might want to post in the Pets section asking for recommendations for an english speaking SKN course near you.

But if you have any German at all don't worry too much about language. You likely already know the 'dog' stuff so you will probably be able to follow along fairly well with limited German. And the chance that another class participant speaks English and can help you out is fairly high. Most trainers will be happy to have you come and observe a lesson or two before you commit to a course - you could do this not only to determine if the trainer is someone you feel comfortable working with, but also to see how much of a barrier the language really presents.

The database of certified SKN trainers is here:
http://blv.bytix.com/plus/trainer/

Plug in your PLZ or town to get a list of those in your area. Then simply write to each convenient to you - in English - asking if English is a possibility.

Again, all the best.
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Re: Just came from Lithuania with two dogs:)

Of course, by doing this SKN corse, you'll meet other "doggy" people too which may assist otherwise with your move to a new country.
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