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Old 19.09.2015, 22:19
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Sounds like you're an ideal candidate for AA then, as you already have accepted the existence of a higher being controlling your actions.
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Higher beings ? I'm surrounded by them all the time. That's why I seek occasional escape in the English Forum.
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So I'll try again I decided to stop drinking about 4 months ago and would like to know if I'm not alone? Anybody know of any kind of groups other than AA? Tried it,don't like it!
Congratulations on the 4 months! If you managed that alone, it looks like you don't really need a group. Just keep it up and enjoy not being hungover

There are better online forums than this brit piss-taking infested cesspool to discuss these matters, I'm on one in my home country where we encourage each other. Even after only a few posts here, half of them are from bored idiots taking the piss. Even the mods doesn't give a shit about staying on topic.

Personally I decided enough is enough a month ago. Sure I miss the cozy feeling you get after a couple of drinks, but since i know it never stops there I also don't miss the consequences afterwards.
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Old 20.09.2015, 12:32
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Have you ever been a member of AA and/or a masonic lodge? Or are your comments based on assumptions?
Neither. I have some close knowledge of masonry and know that in practice the 'God ' part is almost non-existent, but it's a basic construct and requirement of all members that they acknowledge a higher power. Enough for me, as a devout atheist, to turn down invitations to join.

AA are much more open about their inner workings, and of their suggested 12 steps seven specifically relate to God.
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Re: Would like to talk to others who don't drink anymore

"brit piss-taking infested cesspool"
There's a happy camper

Even if he/she has managed to stop whatever bad habit they have on their own, it's still good to discuss things with others.
I can't help. I drink too much. We all have bad habits of some description.
I talked to someone who gave up because of health problems & she told me she has lost friends because they are not comfortable with her abstinence now.
I wish the OP good luck with his/her decision.
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Old 20.09.2015, 13:20
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Enough for me, as a devout atheist, to turn down invitations to join.
Maybe that is the root problem. Different religions offer remedies to assist the adherents in encouraging them to moderation. For instance, the Bible has many counselling references to drunkenness on wine [although, interestingly, Lagavulin is not specifically mentioned]. The Koran is even more helpful in this regard, prescribing a flogging of, in some cases, 40 to 80 lashes.
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Old 20.09.2015, 13:55
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Re: Would like to talk to others who don't drink anymore

My doctor regularly tells me I must reduce my alcohol intake or I'll ruin what's left of my liver.

He always says that when it's his round, the tight git!
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Old 20.09.2015, 15:32
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Re: Would like to talk to others who don't drink anymore

I know AA members who are avowedly atheist. Sorry, can't tell you who they are.

AA (and other self-help groups) is cheaper than seeing your doctor. Also it doesn't go on your medical records, which some people find appealing.

I'm suspicious of people who have a post count of 1, post just to promote a single viewpoint, and are antagonistic to other viewpoints. AA works for some people, doesn't work for others who find success in alternatives. Good luck in whatever you find that helps.
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I'm suspicious of people who have a post count of 1, post just to promote a single viewpoint, and are antagonistic to other viewpoints.
Suspicious? His post made perfectly good sense.
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AA insists that before you can get better you must accept the existence of a higher being, i.e. a god of some sort. It's a bit like the freemasons in that regard and should therefore be treated with the same distrust and suspicion, IMO



A large part of the programme for both AA and freemasons is about confronting ourselves, being honest with ourselves and putting our own house in order. Things such as apologising to someone from whom we have borrowed money and not repaid or people to whom we have otherwise done wrong, i.e. making good our mistakes of the past.


This must surely be something good and a start in self improvement. After all, when we change ourselves our own world changes with us, with or without the higher being.
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Re: Would like to talk to others who don't drink anymore

You could maybe consider helping out Nez Rouge? They have drivers & accompanying helpers.
http://www.nezrouge.ch/de/index.html - http://www.nezrougeaargau.ch/
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Old 23.09.2015, 17:15
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A large part of the programme for AA is about confronting ourselves, being honest with ourselves and putting our own house in order. Things such as apologising to someone from whom we have borrowed money and not repaid or people to whom we have otherwise done wrong, i.e. making good our mistakes of the past.
<removed freemasons stuff - not really relevant>

The trouble is that simply apologising often (usually?) isn't enough to actually make amends, and though it may serve a purpose for the recovering alcoholic to make them feel better about themselves, if it still leaves the people they've hurt in the same situation it's not really achieved very much.

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This must surely be something good and a start in self improvement. After all, when we change ourselves our own world changes with us, with or without the higher being.
One might think so, and you clearly do, but I'm not sure I agree. Having a father who was a terrible parent and husband say, years later when the kids are in their thirties, "I want to make it up to you, be the father now that I wasn't at the time" really, really doesn't help anybody. For instance.
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Old 23.09.2015, 17:30
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Re: Would like to talk to others who don't drink anymore

It was easy... I told my English guy that it is either me or his beer that he loves so much (almost as much as cricket and rugby) and he drinks only feldschlosen alkoholfrei since then. He still drinks with friend when traveling to London but I do not want to witness it or have any drunken discussions after having too much to drink. Discussions in relationship are great and needed but I want to have them when we are both sober... Does it make sense? I like to keep my men on a short leash (omg )
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Old 23.09.2015, 17:42
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It was easy... I told my English guy that it is either me or his beer that he loves so much (almost as much as cricket and rugby) and he drinks only feldschlosen alkoholfrei since then. He still drinks with friend when traveling to London but I do not want to witness it or have any drunken discussions after having too much to drink. Discussions in relationship are great and needed but I want to have them when we are both sober... Does it make sense? I like to keep my men on a short leash (omg )
If any woman had tried a stunt like that with me she'd have been right out of the door.
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Old 23.09.2015, 17:58
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If any woman had tried a stunt like that with me she'd have been right out of the door.
Yep. Mandating Feldschlösschen anything is reason to end a relationship.
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Old 23.09.2015, 18:21
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Yep. Mandating Feldschlösschen anything is reason to end a relationship.
TBH I'm not sure which is worse - the Feldslosshen or the alkoholfrei part.
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Old 23.09.2015, 19:25
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Yep. Mandating Feldschlösschen anything is reason to end a relationship.
Feldschlösschen ? I think you are slurring (or is it schlurring?) a bit. IzabelaInZug distinctly mentioned feldschlosen .
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Re: Would like to talk to others who don't drink anymore

If you cannot cope with addiction, I would administer RWC2015 games shown in local pubs which will keep you alkohofrei, oder? Only in Switzerland though where drinking culture is somewhat less conducive for high booze consumption during the whole tournament
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TBH I'm not sure which is worse - the Feldslosshen or the alkoholfrei part.
None, he still drinks with friends so it is okay.
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If any woman had tried a stunt like that with me she'd have been right out of the door.
Very clever and how manly... I can say the same. If any man told me he is not going to stop drinking ( or drink less ) he would be also out of the door... and i think it is fair.
There is nothing good in having drinks every single day. I stopped having my glass of wine every day and I eel good about it. It is not a habit any more and won't turn into addiction.
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Very clever and how manly...
What has it got to do with being "manly"?

It's about having respect for one's partner as an adult, a human being, an actual person.

You don't half talk some shite sometimes.
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