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say hello, i am new here

hello everyone

no idea why i never join here since nearly 2 years.

I am from Hong Kong, and i speak cantonese and english.

moving to here, its very very different then what is from HK. in terms of speed, personal contact, safety of life, and so on.

and mostly the big difference is, in HK, we won't ask any foreigners, hey, when you gonna to learn cantonese? but here, i face this question everyday : how is your german? and when you will learn it..

anyway, just say hello...
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so how is the life here? all people are happy to live here?
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so how is the life here? all people are happy to live here?
I am, definitely!

Hope things get better for you, and good luck with your German.
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i had learn a year in HK for german, but i give up once its touching to grammar...

and now i do nothing else on that..
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If you want to try again, I have found https://www.duolingo.com very good.
There is an app which is great, and fun to use too!
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Old 21.08.2016, 20:39
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oh yes, i have that, LOL!

the software is also funny, they have the reminder function, so once i do not log in for a day, they will send me email, right?

so there are a period i am in Hong kong for short trip, and i don't log in..so they keep sending me email, after i think 5 emails, then its say : well, seems our reminder do not help anything, so we give up.

so sad...lol

well, yes, pick up back after holiday..slowly but surely
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i had learn a year in HK for german, but i give up once its touching to grammar...

and now i do nothing else on that..
Welcome, luga.
In my experience, every aspect of daily life improved in direct proportion to my increasing command of German. I'd like to encourage you to work on it! There are lots of thread about learning German on this forum.
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totally understanding...

tks for the tips

opps, just find out there is any place for the new comer to say hello...

sorry

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Hello, and welcome.
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Re: say hello, i am new here

trying to look around and see where can i raise this question, but failed, so i tried here

sitting at home getting a bit bored for me...so i am thinking to do something, not because only for $, but also to do something...as the city girl, i like ACTION.

so what is the best you think for the market here?

- home-made kitchen food - i am not sure if this is legal here, but i am good in cooking (of course asian food), wonder if this is a good idea to do some catering service (for example, private dinner delivery to home? or even cook there in clients place?) or even self pick up lunch box ? when i look around for so called "Chinese food" here, well, come on!

- belly dance teacher - well, the student must first need to understand english (i did that in HK as part times. i love to teach dancing)?

- Cantonese teacher?

just want to do something in morning period, when the kids are away to school...

just some brain storming...
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Re: say hello, i am new here

Do you have a work permit first of all?
You could also join a german course to expand the list of what you can do
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This is not meant to be rude, it's just something easy to talk about with new people, like what are your plans about it.
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trying to look around and see where can i raise this question, but failed, so i tried here

sitting at home getting a bit bored for me...so i am thinking to do something, not because only for $, but also to do something...as the city girl, i like ACTION.

so what is the best you think for the market here?

- home-made kitchen food - i am not sure if this is legal here, but i am good in cooking (of course asian food), wonder if this is a good idea to do some catering service (for example, private dinner delivery to home? or even cook there in clients place?) or even self pick up lunch box ? when i look around for so called "Chinese food" here, well, come on!

- belly dance teacher - well, the student must first need to understand english (i did that in HK as part times. i love to teach dancing)?

- Cantonese teacher?

just want to do something in morning period, when the kids are away to school...

just some brain storming...
Welcome to the forum.

Home cooking - unlikely as you would need various licences and the kitchen has to be up to a certain standard too I think which may not be possible if you're renting here.

Belly dancing/Cantonese teacher - possible, but you need to talk to your clients in something other than English.

All of the above also depend on which permit you hold - an L or a B. If an L then you can't be self-employed here. B permit you could, but you need to have a good business plan and the finances to support that business before you'd be allowed to be self-employed.

For anything like this your German language skills need to be improved; you simply can't count on having English speaking clients only and contracts for food/equipment, etc, will also be in German. So why not see if there's a morning language class run by Migros Club or similar.
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Do you have a work permit first of all?
You could also join a german course to expand the list of what you can do

This is not meant to be rude, it's just something easy to talk about with new people, like what are your plans about it.

not be rude, sure, understand
just a bit annoying for me

learning a new skill because you like it, or because you have to...this is kind of difference for me

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Welcome to the forum.

Home cooking - unlikely as you would need various licences and the kitchen has to be up to a certain standard too I think which may not be possible if you're renting here.

Belly dancing/Cantonese teacher - possible, but you need to talk to your clients in something other than English.

All of the above also depend on which permit you hold - an L or a B. If an L then you can't be self-employed here. B permit you could, but you need to have a good business plan and the finances to support that business before you'd be allowed to be self-employed.

For anything like this your German language skills need to be improved; you simply can't count on having English speaking clients only and contracts for food/equipment, etc, will also be in German. So why not see if there's a morning language class run by Migros Club or similar.
well, so simple to say, no german, then very likely, sitting at home

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well, so simple to say, no german, then very likely, sitting at home
Well, I've been doing so for 18 years. My French is still non-existant. But I keep myself busy doing other things.

You could look for local German conversation groups where you can practice, maybe see if you could volunteer somewhere and that would help the daily language practice too.
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well, so simple to say, no german, then very likely, sitting at home
No, no, no - don't resign yourself to sitting home! That way lies madness... and soul-destroying unhappiness as you try to settle in.

I think you should pursue your ideas. The act of researching, planning, learning what it takes to put a business idea into practice is itself an interesting activity, and one that could help you settle in.

Look into what it would take to establish a home kitchen business. Sure, in the end you may decide that the permission process might be too much, that the idea is not viable - but at least you will have learned a lot via the process and as a side benefit probably mastered a whole lot of German. And 'paperwork' German to boot, something many of us struggle with.

Look into teaching Cantonese - perhaps with one of the language schools, perhaps on your own. No, you likely would not be able to teach German-speaking clients, but there might be a few English speakers who want to learn the language here.

For instance - I had a smattering of Chinese when I moved here, and as I saw it fading away fast while I tried to learn German I looked around for a way to try to keep up. So I took a few classes with a woman who could teach me Putonghua conversation via English. You may not get many clients, but there may well be a few out there. What do you have to lose if you try? Better than sitting home bored, after all.

And look into what it would take to work as self employed, another research project.

Looking back, one of the mistakes I made when I first arrived here was to allow the barriers I ran into to keep me boxed in. Seemed that everywhere I turned I ran into a 'no' - and I let that affect my whole perception of life in Switzerland.

Yes the bureaucratic barriers are indeed high here, but, almost 20 years on, I now see that some were not as insurmountable as I had thought all those years ago. I wasted a lot of time, and very much regret having allowed our family's move to Switzerland torpedo my own plans, ambitions, even sense of self. Don't make that mistake!

So... do continue weighing up opportunities, then go out and learn what it would take to make those happen. Some may not be feasible in the end, but maybe one will be. Again, what is there to lose by doing some research initial stages? The process of pursuing plans is itself valuable, even if those plans ultimately don't work out.

And in the meantime - IME the number one best way to get out of the house, get connected with new people, learn about your new society is to take German classes. German classes can be a social lifeline as well as a way to pick up necessary skills.


Good luck as you settle in!
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No, no, no - don't resign yourself to sitting home! That way lies madness... and soul-destroying unhappiness as you try to settle in.

I think you should pursue your ideas. The act of researching, planning, learning what it takes to put a business idea into practice is itself an interesting activity, and one that could help you settle in.

Look into what it would take to establish a home kitchen business. Sure, in the end you may decide that the permission process might be too much, that the idea is not viable - but at least you will have learned a lot via the process and as a side benefit probably mastered a whole lot of German. And 'paperwork' German to boot, something many of us struggle with.

Look into teaching Cantonese - perhaps with one of the language schools, perhaps on your own. No, you likely would not be able to teach German-speaking clients, but there might be a few English speakers who want to learn the language here.

For instance - I had a smattering of Chinese when I moved here, and as I saw it fading away fast while I tried to learn German I looked around for a way to try to keep up. So I took a few Chinese classes with a woman who could teach me Chinese conversation via English. You may not get many clients, but there may well be a few out there. What do you have to lose if you try? Better than sitting home bored, after all.

And look into what it would take to work as self employed, another research project.

Looking back, one of the mistakes I made when I first arrived here was to allow the barriers I ran into to keep me boxed in. Seemed that everywhere I turned I ran into a 'no' - and I let that affect my whole perception of life in Switzerland.

Yes the bureaucratic barriers are indeed high here, but, almost 20 years on, I now see that some were not as insurmountable as I had thought all those years ago. I wasted a lot of time, and very much regret having allowed our family's move to Switzerland torpedo my own plans, ambitions, even sense of self. Don't make that mistake!

So... do continue weighing up opportunities, then go out and learn what it would take to make those happen. Some may not be feasible in the end, but maybe one will be. Again, what is there to lose by doing some research initial stages? The process of pursuing plans is itself valuable, even if those plans ultimately don't work out.

And in the meantime - IME the number one best way to get out of the house, get connected with new people, learn about your new society is to take German classes. German classes can be a social lifeline as well as a way to pick up necessary skills.


Good luck as you settle in!
thank you for your reply.
Yes, it is always worth to try....

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Welcome to the forum.

Home cooking - unlikely as you would need various licences and the kitchen has to be up to a certain standard too I think which may not be possible if you're renting here.

Belly dancing/Cantonese teacher - possible, but you need to talk to your clients in something other than English.

All of the above also depend on which permit you hold - an L or a B. If an L then you can't be self-employed here. B permit you could, but you need to have a good business plan and the finances to support that business before you'd be allowed to be self-employed.

For anything like this your German language skills need to be improved; you simply can't count on having English speaking clients only and contracts for food/equipment, etc, will also be in German. So why not see if there's a morning language class run by Migros Club or similar.
sorry for my stupidness
where to see this is B or L?

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Re: say hello, i am new here

Luga, seeing as you are in Basel... I've heard good things about Centerpoint:

http://www.centrepoint.ch

This is a volunteer club. I'm not in Basel so don't have personal experience. But perhaps this might be something to look into, an opportunity to meet new people, a springboard for getting involved in the area.

You'll note they hold conversation groups in several languages. These are not formal lessons, rather informal groups led by volunteers. Maybe look into the German conversation group if you already have some of the basics, a great way to practice. Or, perhaps once you get involved, inquire if there is interest in starting a Cantonese group.

As above, this is a club, the language groups are run on a volunteer basis. But volunteering is a good way to keep your skills sharp, an opportunity for engagement you might not find elsewhere. And above all, a chance to make new friends.
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