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13.11.2011, 21:36
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| Quote: | |  | | | Generally speaking, the people I met/interacted with so far have been happy to switch to what I refer to "High German for dummies" i.e. speaking slowly, with simple sentences, etc. This has helped me a whole lot in making progress.
The few occasional people who insist on speaking SG to me soon get discouraged by my complete and very apparent disengagement from the conversation and total loss of interest/attention, and start then speaking something else to me. Rude on my part? Maybe. While I agree that, since we are in Switzerland, it is perfectly reasonable that people speak their language (SG) if they want to, I just feel like I am already making a big effort to learn German, which is not easy when you live in an environment where, de facto, people really speak another language, and at the moment I am just not interested.
Eventually, if I end up staying in Switzerland, my goal is to be able to understand SG or most of it, but this in my book comes only after and if I become fluent in HG.
Perspectives... | | | | | Right you are. A decent command of Standard German gives you the basis to venture out into the various dialects of this language, which means dozens of vastly different dialects in Switzerland, Western Austria, Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg, Alsace, but also those very many dialects and accents in other parts of Germany and Austria
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13.11.2011, 21:43
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| Quote: | | | | | Right you are. A decent command of Standard German gives you the basis to venture out into the various dialects of this language, which means dozens of vastly different dialects in Switzerland, Western Austria, Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg, Alsace, but also those very many dialects and accents in other parts of Germany and Austria | | | | | Make sure you master all the coarse word first,this realy buts some weight behind if you take part in a conversation  If you need some example PM me  |
13.11.2011, 22:46
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| Quote: | | | | | Make sure you master all the coarse word first,this realy buts some weight behind if you take part in a conversationIf you need some example PM me | | | | | coarse words ? How dare you to speak so negatively about those beautiful dialects and such nice words like "chaibe choge deet" or "dee isch halt vo Schtaa und tuänd schtaanere"  |
13.11.2011, 22:54
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| Quote: | | | | | coarse words ? How dare you to speak so negatively about those beautiful dialects and such nice words like "chaibe choge deet" or "dee isch halt vo Schtaa und tuänd schtaanere" | | | | | Uhhhh wolly,sorry I ment Zuercher coarse words  Ones does not have to stard with "Dene Ceibe chogge vo Chuur ohbe" Sorry Wolly  BTW. Howe come your not "im naescht" yet
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13.11.2011, 22:55
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i secretly wished the swiss formally codified their language, it seems so unswiss of them not too... Perhaps they were not always as efficient as they are now
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13.11.2011, 22:56
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| Quote: | | | | | i secretly wished the swiss formally codified their language, it seems so unswiss of them not too... Perhaps they were not always as efficient as they are now | | | | | They have their Idiotikon http://www.idiotikon.ch/ The Idiotikon is available online ( Dialect Speaking German Dictionary in CH ) | | This user would like to thank jrspet for this useful post: | |
13.11.2011, 22:58
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i meant formaly. similar to what the french did during the mid of the 1800s.
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13.11.2011, 23:00
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| Quote: | | | | | i secretly wished the swiss formally codified their language, it seems so unswiss of them not too... Perhaps they were not always as efficient as they are now | | | | | We are stubborn ,must be the Celtic gene Make it worst my wife is Irish My poor kid`s  |
13.11.2011, 23:02
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lol isnt all of europe from celtic-saxon stock? i think the Greeks were the only ones able to keep us out. lol
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13.11.2011, 23:06
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| Quote: | | | | | | | | | | Wher can I get that ? | Quote: | | | | | i meant formaly. similar to what the French did during the mid of the 1800s. | | | | | Now you went completly of the scale  |
13.11.2011, 23:08
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