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08.11.2011, 12:14
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08.11.2011, 12:26
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| | | Re: Bi- to trilingual toddler? | Quote: | |  | | | Thank you all for your responses, it is reassuring to know that many people have been in the same situation as we will be and have positive experiences to speak of.
I did have to smile when reading the comments regarding 'Dragon Parenting', I hadn't realised what an emotive issue this can be. Since we will probably be in Switzerland for the long haul, I just wanted my daughter to be able to make some friends and to hopefully learn some of the language before she starts kindergarten. I would also like to help her French as none of her French family speak English and as I mentioned in the original post, she is reluctant to speak it. Also, what I didn't say was perhaps more selfishly, one of the main reasons for seeking local playgroups is for me to meet other parents as moving abroad with small children (I also have a 9 week old) is a very scary prospect, and one that many of you have been through! | | | | | Having re-read the thread, and this response from you which makes things clearer, I realise that I was actually overreacting - probably projecting too much of my own experiences into my response. So I hope that you will all accept my apology. My best wishes for your move and for the future.
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08.11.2011, 12:28
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| | | Re: Bi- to trilingual toddler? | Quote: | |  | | | Cambridge is a very competitive parenting environment, by the way. Taking the context into account when interpreting the OP is useful. | | | | | Cambridge is a large city that comprises not just a University. Your interpretative techniques leave much to be desired.
But for future interpretation attempts, beware; there are more people of both the Cambridge University and city types out here than their past or current locations would reveal. | 
08.11.2011, 12:29
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| | | Re: Bi- to trilingual toddler? | Quote: | |  | | | Cambridge is a large city that comprises not just a University. Your interpretative techniques leave much to be desired.
But for future interpretation attempts, beware; there are more people of both the Cambridge University and city types out here than their past or current locations would reveal.  | | | | | Markmadsen, the above crossed with your balanced and thoughtful response. So no longer needed .. or is it??
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08.11.2011, 12:53
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I want to add something I think is important when it comes to kids and languages.
As a child, I was totally fluent in German. My parents moved to Vienna for several years when I was around one. I learned German before my mother. I went to preschool in Vienna and spoke it with no issues.
We later left Vienna. By that time, my mother was fluent in German. But since nobody around me was speaking anything but English, I forgot it. And I do mean all of it. Coming to Switzerland decades later hasn't sparked any of it. My parents are still fluent, mostly because they have German-speaking friends.
Please, please, please - if you leave Switzerland and move to a country where German isn't spoken - continue to speak German with your kids. It's so valuable to speak another language (would sure come in handy for me now!) but it's a parental responsibility to maintain it after a move.
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08.11.2011, 13:23
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| | | Re: Bi- to trilingual toddler? | Quote: | |  | | | I want to add something I think is important when it comes to kids and languages.
As a child, I was totally fluent in German. My parents moved to Vienna for several years when I was around one. I learned German before my mother. I went to preschool in Vienna and spoke it with no issues.
We later left Vienna. By that time, my mother was fluent in German. But since nobody around me was speaking anything but English, I forgot it. And I do mean all of it. Coming to Switzerland decades later hasn't sparked any of it. My parents are still fluent, mostly because they have German-speaking friends.
Please, please, please - if you leave Switzerland and move to a country where German isn't spoken - continue to speak German with your kids. It's so valuable to speak another language (would sure come in handy for me now!) but it's a parental responsibility to maintain it after a move. | | | | | I agree, I was brought up in Denmark and when we returned to the UK I was doing O Levels and my dad insisted I did one in Danish. I was dead against it but did it anyway. Years later I try to keep up with the language and the O Level always made interviews very interesting and made me stand out (maybe not for the right reasons!).
Anyway I have a 6 month old baby girl and I am determined that any language she learns over here will stay with her as long as possible.
Also thanks OP for this useful thread!
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08.11.2011, 13:28
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| | | Re: Bi- to trilingual toddler? | Quote: | |  | | | Markmadsen, the above crossed with your balanced and thoughtful response. So no longer needed .. or is it?? | | | | | Let's let it stand, since I have apologised and your point is made. We can compare our Cambridge experiences (university, technology, city, parenting, etc) some other time. Preferably with alcohol in reach.
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06.01.2012, 16:48
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| | | Re: Bi- to trilingual toddler? | Quote: | |  | | | I want to add something I think is important when it comes to kids and languages.
As a child, I was totally fluent in German. My parents moved to Vienna for several years when I was around one. I learned German before my mother. I went to preschool in Vienna and spoke it with no issues.
We later left Vienna. By that time, my mother was fluent in German. But since nobody around me was speaking anything but English, I forgot it. And I do mean all of it. Coming to Switzerland decades later hasn't sparked any of it. My parents are still fluent, mostly because they have German-speaking friends.
Please, please, please - if you leave Switzerland and move to a country where German isn't spoken - continue to speak German with your kids. It's so valuable to speak another language (would sure come in handy for me now!) but it's a parental responsibility to maintain it after a move. | | | | | Goes against the 'one language one parent', but I wholeheartedly agree. Find some way to use the language, preferable in a fun social setting (or as a 'secret language' when out and about - SG has got be great for that!). Use it or lose it!
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09.01.2012, 00:12
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My nephew has a German mother but a Romansh speaking father and lives in a Romansh speaking area. For the first 5 years of his life he would only speak in German- his father/grandfather/uncles etc would all speak in Romansh, he would understand perfectly but reply in German.
Since starting (Romansh) kindergarten this year he now jabbers away in Romansh as if he has been speaking it his whole life.
I am no linguist, and I don't really understand why he suddenly speaks this language after starting school, but it is clear that he understood it all along. So I agree with the others, kids soak up the language passively and will begin to speak when they are good and ready.
I have no kids of my own yet, but this is something I have thought a lot about- I am English and want my kids to speak my language, but also the Romansh language of their father (its a beautiful language and something very special to me, my OH and all his family/friends). And of course German/Swiss German to be a part of the wider Swiss society. The thought of all this makes me nervous already, so I wish you all the best on your journey!
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23.01.2012, 20:02
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Dear Laura,
I persoanlly think it is a good idea to introduce your daughter to another language, especially if you plan to stay in Switzerland for a long period of time. My son has to deal with 3 languages and he is 3.5 years old. I speak Russian with him, my husband communicated in German and we lived in South Africa for the last 4 years. To keep his English, we decided to send him to the bilingual daycare. it seems to work well for now, although it require immense discipline from our side not to mix the languages and stick to one language each. | Quote: | |  | | | Hello all
We will be moving to Baden from Cambridge in Feb next year as husband has a job at the PSI. He is French, I am English and we have a 2 yr old who we speak our respective languages to (we mainly speak English together but are trying to speak more French for my sake). Our daughter is chatting happily in English and a little bit reluctantly in French but we figure this will sort itself out when she is older.
We would really like to encourage her to learn more languages, so I would like to take her to some groups in the Baden/Zurich area where she can play with other children who speak French and/or German/Swiss German. Does anyone know of any suitable groups, and is this a good way (in your opinion) to introduce another language to a child?
Cheers,
Laura | | | | | | |
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