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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

5 months in total, though as it was in an intensive course.
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

I learnt mine from a Sicilian by hanging around his motorcycle shop after work.

However, we speak Italian together for the past 15 years.

I learnt more German in Ticino than in the four years I spent in ZH. I spent a lot of time working with Bernese.

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Did you mention where you'll be moving to? I've forgotten it if you did. Sounds like you'll do fine picking up on German with your experiences with other languages and your determination. But do I understand you correctly that you are planning on resuming nursing studies? Did you begin and have to leave off? Or do you have a degree and are adding to that? If you'll be studying then your location will make a big difference.
I barely started! Have had introductions and admin days but no study days as yet! Literally just started so no degree! We haven't decided where to live yet, possibly Lachen, or Zurich, or somewhere in between. I need to find out where the unis/nursing schools are there!
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Contact the Goethe Institute in Manchester, they do not offer formal classes at that location but should be able to connect you with a good instructor for a bit of 1-1 if you want a headstart. Although a person can learn a lot of basic language from books/cd's etc. this would be a great way of getting yourself to actually speak (and if you have that irresistable Mancunian slur could help make sure you are developing good pronunciation).
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Immersion is the key word in many of the reply's here...

You are going to be at a disadvantage because the 'house' language will be English, a few hints,

Stay motivated, don't buy the cablecom/swisscom package full of english channels. Don't forget television programmes usually suck so watch programmes in German and not English (it's all the same rubbish anyway!)

Don't lose motivation, even when you mess up (and you will many times) keep going.

Do something, ie volonteer, talk (annoy) neighbours, shopkeepers etc on a daily basis, just so you can speak with them (it's easy to arrive fully motivated and lose that motivation and end up asking 'do you speak English?'

Language courses are only good if the person is motivated to keep going after the lesson has finished

And finally never be put off if you can't pronounce a word like they do, where I live we speak French, I have a big foregin accent but can laugh at myself!

Keep trying!

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Old 12.03.2014, 06:56
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Are we talking about German or Swiss German?


I'm fairly new here, and it seems it will be hindering to learn German while listening to Swiss German all day. When I speak to people in high German (1 year in Uni, grundkenntnisse) they just carry on speaking in Swiss German as if it's the same thing and so far I don't understand half of it.


Is it rude to ask people to speak in High German? So far I'm hesitant to ask
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Is it rude to ask people to speak in High German? So far I'm hesitant to ask
Not at all. It's rude to speak Swiss German to a person who obviously doesn't speak it. Very bad style but pretty frequent.
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I barely started! Have had introductions and admin days but no study days as yet! Literally just started so no degree! We haven't decided where to live yet, possibly Lachen, or Zurich, or somewhere in between. I need to find out where the unis/nursing schools are there!
Probably the program closest to you would be at the University of Applied Sciences in Winterthur. The university in Zurich does not have a nursing program. Unfortunately their website doesn't have an English version but here's the page with info on the program. Most people there would speak some English so if you wanted to you could send a message - there's a contact address. Even though a lot of the materials used in the program will be in English I think you would have to get up to at least a low B2 level to get a degree. People might tell you that a lot of the classes are in English but that is not the case. I know some of the profs there and classes are definitely conducted in German. The only exceptions are visiting lecturers from programs in other countries. However, there are students in the program whose native language is not German so you wouldn't be the only one. And having English as your first language would be a big bonus with so much of the course materials being in English.

http://www.gesundheit.zhaw.ch/de/ges...f/studium.html

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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

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Are we talking about German or Swiss German?


I'm fairly new here, and it seems it will be hindering to learn German while listening to Swiss German all day. When I speak to people in high German (1 year in Uni, grundkenntnisse) they just carry on speaking in Swiss German as if it's the same thing and so far I don't understand half of it.


Is it rude to ask people to speak in High German? So far I'm hesitant to ask
I have had the same experience and it is sooooo frustrating. Especially when in a group and you have already asked them if they would mind speaking in high German so that you can follow the conversation. And then after a few minutes they switch right back again. Not intending to be rude but just not really paying attention. I really hate to then interrupt again and ask yet again ... This is especially difficult at work when important issues are being discussed.
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Not at all. It's rude to speak Swiss German to a person who obviously doesn't speak it. Very bad style but pretty frequent.
Perhaps, but I would rather my elderly neighbour across the road and I can have a friendly chat over our snow shovels, than have him try to speak a language he probably hasn't had to since formal schooling. I understand enough Swiss German to follow him and vice versa. Nor would I ask the school children who pass by and stop to talk to speak Swiss German. There are lots of people who understand Swiss German but would never think of speaking it.

To the OP, after about a year you will be sitting on the tram eavesdropping, because actually you DO understand Swiss German, or at least enough to follow the conversation

I would say the rudeness factor depends on the context

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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

After 3 years of study 2 x 30 mins per day (on the train to work) I passed the german language exam to get onto a university course in Germany. Then you're looking at another 2 years to get comfortable and fluent for work and socializing. This assuming that you're determined and have a good memory/ a good way to learn words and can get to grips with the grammar.

Tips get reading books, start with the easy readers
Best german grammar book (with english explanations)
http://www.amazon.com/Practice-Gramm...dreyer+schmidt

you will also need the separate solutions handbook
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

it took me just shy of 18 months to get through B1 German with a private teacher, twice a week for one hour plus home study. I know people who have completed B1 more quickly, but I took my time since I was learning Swiss German at the same time on my own and with the assistance of friends and colleagues. after 2.5 years of study and practice, I am just now finally reaching the point where I can actually process thoughts and conversation in German or Swiss German without the constant need to first translate everything I read or hear into English. if I were to have to guess I would estimate another 2.5 years before I approach anything resembling "fluency" in either language.

the key for me was not getting discouraged, and to force myself to take a break every 6 months or so to let things sink in.
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Well hello. Welcome to Switzerland. I also work in nursing. I suggest you do an intensive course. Have a nice day

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I tried searching this but found no results!

I know it must be different for everyone, I'm looking for an average.. How long does it take for an adult to learn German? Share your experiences please!

Found out that my husband's relocation package covers 6 months' language tuition for spouse (y). I'm expecting 6 months to maybe be enough to hold down an everyday conversation but I am probably going to need to top it up as I want to be fluent so that I can carry on/restart my nursing training. I'd like to know approximately how long this will take so that I can have some structure to my 3-to-5-year-plan! At the moment I speak none at all but when we move I won't be working so will be able to really focus on learning
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

The comic is quite discouraging, huh?
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

I've been here about 10years and it's really not good from a grammatical point of view, I gave up on the grammar part years ago, I can be understood so that's ok for me, but to a native speaker it must be painful.
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I've been here about 10years and it's really not good from a grammatical point of view, I gave up on the grammar part years ago, I can be understood so that's ok for me, but to a native speaker it must be painful.
Maybe if you think of the grammar a bit like learning to read music - you didn't give up on that did you
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Maybe if you think of the grammar a bit like learning to read music - you didn't give up on that did you
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Yes. Its no more difficult than English grammar
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