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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

how-long-did-take-you-learn-german-image.jpg For some this may seem a relief - for those of us who learned German eons ago - just meddling Putsch is a respected linguist - particularly in the context of gender difference/equality w/in German language - so maybe I too need to remain open-minded.

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Old 26.03.2014, 15:54
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

I'd wondered what "das" was, it's neutral then. Does that mean that if I ever forget, or don't yet know whether to use "der" or "die", I should just plump for "das"?
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Old 26.03.2014, 16:29
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Not true. Yes you should do a 3 month intensive-3 hours a day 5 days a week. But that will not be enough. You will need at least 9 months in total intensive -then your German should be good. I did that when I came here and then I sttarted a job in in an elderly peoples home in nursing. Watch films in German and read the german newspapers.Forget English for 1 year. As soon as you start work it will all come together believe me.
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Do just 3 months intensive course and gou will be very fine ( about 3 hours every day )

And if you are bilingual you will learn very fast any other language
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I'd wondered what "das" was, it's neutral then. Does that mean that if I ever forget, or don't yet know whether to use "der" or "die", I should just plump for "das"?
Not really. Der is usually the best one if you are guessing.
Have a click around here & see if that helps. http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa042098.htm

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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Where did you study nursing? Do you have a qualification in nursing already? xie B;2107384]I tried searching this but found no results!

I know it must be different for everyone, I'm looking for an average.. How long does it take for an adult to learn German? Share your experiences please!

Found out that my husband's relocation package covers 6 months' language tuition for spouse (y). I'm expecting 6 months to maybe be enough to hold down an everyday conversation but I am probably going to need to top it up as I want to be fluent so that I can carry on/restart my nursing training. I'd like to know approximately how long this will take so that I can have some structure to my 3-to-5-year-plan! At the moment I speak none at all but when we move I won't be working so will be able to really focus on learning [/QUOTE]
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

http://german.about.com/library/blgen_die.htm
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Not really. Der is usually the best one if you are guessing.
Have a click around here & see if that helps. http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa042098.htm
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Old 28.03.2014, 15:08
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Where did you study nursing? Do you have a qualification in nursing already?
Here in Manchester. No I was first year, I have no qualifications since sixth form x

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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

This is the link to the governing body here in Switzerland-the Swiss Red Cross. They are responsible for the recognition of any nursing qualification. Its not in English so it's more reason to learn German. Contact them if you need advice. They most likely speak English. Give them all the details of what you have studied in nursing etc and they will tell you where you stand as far as further studies.


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Here in Manchester. No I was first year, I have no qualifications since sixth form x

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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

I arrived, almost six years ago, with very, very basic German ("Ich heisse..., ich bin... Jahre alt"). I did a three month intensive course back in 2009 which earned me the A2 certificate. Beyond that, as a result of day-to-day interactions I'd say I'd pass the B1 exam without too much difficulty if I sat it next week. So while nowhere near fluent, I can happily converse and interact with people through German, as long as the concepts I have to express don't get too complex.

As has been said, a serious barrier is that no one actually speaks German here, as they prefer Swiss German and so will revert to this at the first opportunity. As a result, while they'll understand your German, you don't get the same benefits from conversations as you would if they were responding in German and this slows down the process hugely.

At the rate I'm going, I'll probably reach a solid B2 level in another year or two, which is seen as the base line for almost 'fluency'. However, I don't think it's possible to become truly fluent in German in Switzerland, as by the more advanced stages of learning your German will have been 'infected' with too much Schwyzerdütsch and so will never quite be 'correct'.

Were I to do it all again, I'd move to somewhere like Hamburg for a year first, before moving to Switzerland.
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Most kids would speak fairly fluently after a few months, if they are in full immersion- and if they feel the necessity to do so to make friends and 'survive'. Most expats parents, for all sorts of reasons, think it is more important to keep up with their own language/s- rather than acquire the new one. Which I can totally understand, especially if the stay abroad is a short one with a return to the home system or another within a couple of years. But then, if the stay does last longer than expected, the child is often penalised when it come to selection at 14 between vocational and academic. When our daughter came here to stay with friends (her choice, her idea) for 1 term aged 12- she was very quiet at school and in the friends' home for about 6 weeks, then became almost bilingual overnight.

Apart from talking to us on the phone once a week- she was in total immersion in the family, no computer, no English TV- only French, day in, day out. By the end of her 4 month stay, she was word perfect orally and her writing skills were very good, if not perfect. She then went back to school in UK without any problems- and caught up any missed work very quickly. She's never lost her French- and still speaks with a slight Neuchâtel accent, 26 years later - although she's lived in Spain for some years, and now back in UK.
i would say this is the exception rather than the norm. i know kids who have lived here for years, born here in fact and still take extra German lessons. there's different levels of fluency and unless both parents speak the same language it can take years.
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I'd wondered what "das" was, it's neutral then. Does that mean that if I ever forget, or don't yet know whether to use "der" or "die", I should just plump for "das"?
go for the Swiss-German + mumbly foreigner option....pronounce them all as d'

...and if you can get reasonably fast in speaking, it's even less obvious you are avoiding the issue
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

The Swiss have a strong aversion to speaking High German-and of course why should they. I find watching Engish films in German is a good help-at least as far as hearing and understanding goes.
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

I honestly think this depends mostly on ypur willness to speak it. You can either sit 6 months with A1 or be fluent in 10 weeks. just reduce the amount of your mother-language.
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

Studied it for 4 years in high school then havent used it for 10 years, now after one month was fluent again. I recommend visiting meetup groups, where you can really practice conversation and having skype lessons is also a great solution.
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I honestly think this depends mostly on ypur willness to speak it. You can either sit 6 months with A1 or be fluent in 10 weeks. just reduce the amount of your mother-language.
Nowadays, it is very difficult to go for full immersion, due to Cable tv, mobile phones, Skype, large numbers of other expats with same mother tongue, Expat forums, etc. When I went to London to learn English in 1970- I had none of the above- so the brain had to switch absolutely and totally to new language- so much so that it hurt. But progress was VERY fast with full immersion.
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

I have been here for 2 years now, and still know very little. My knowledge currently consists of being able to order a meal, go to a shop and ask the staff for help finding stuff and a few other basic stuff. I still haven't fully grasped why nouns have to take a gender lol. Can never remember which noun is which sex!

There is also the fact that I am expected to learn High German, when everybody around me speaks Swiss and Liechtensteiner(in). I go to Germany and accidentally speak in Swiss haha

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Nowadays, it is very difficult to go for full immersion, due to Cable tv, mobile phones, Skype, large numbers of other expats with same mother tongue, Expat forums, etc. When I went to London to learn English in 1970- I had none of the above- so the brain had to switch absolutely and totally to new language- so much so that it hurt. But progress was VERY fast with full immersion.
For some people (me included) that actually depends on the language tbh. English is a fairly easy language to master in comparison to German - because German has so many more rules. The same sounding word to an englishman in German can mean entirely different things, especially with the sht, ch and other similar strong german pronounciations. I used to know a lot of french but honestly, I have forgotten basically everything haha
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Re: How long did it take you to learn German?

If the interest and motivation ( and the necessity) is there then you learn quick.Your case is a question mark.
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I have been here for 2 years now, and still know very little. My knowledge currently consists of being able to order a meal, go to a shop and ask the staff for help finding stuff and a few other basic stuff. I still haven't fully grasped why nouns have to take a gender lol. Can never remember which noun is which sex!

There is also the fact that I am expected to learn High German, when everybody around me speaks Swiss and Liechtensteiner(in). I go to Germany and accidentally speak in Swiss haha



For some people (me included) that actually depends on the language tbh. English is a fairly easy language to master in comparison to German - because German has so many more rules. The same sounding word to an englishman in German can mean entirely different things, especially with the sht, ch and other similar strong german pronounciations. I used to know a lot of french but honestly, I have forgotten basically everything haha
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One month in ECAP in Baden. 3 months self study so far! Still lots of room to be improved.
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Still learning. Basically read everything I could get my hands on and listened to a lot of random german stuff. I am the level where I understand enough of 20min and blick am abend (especially the latter) to be annoyed at how trashy the are.
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Yes. Watching films in German is also good practice.
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Still learning. Basically read everything I could get my hands on and listened to a lot of random german stuff. I am the level where I understand enough of 20min and blick am abend (especially the latter) to be annoyed at how trashy the are.
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