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Old 18.06.2015, 20:40
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Allen keys (= Allen wrenches) and Inbus / Innensechskantschlüssel look and work the same, but beware; they may not have exactly the same dimensions.

Allen being a US company, the original Allen keys are strictly "imperial," while Inbus and every other similar brand in Europe is strictly metric. The differences may be minimal, but with the forces that can be exerted due to the substantial leverage of the key, you may very quickly strip a bolt head if you aren't using the correct system. Been there, done that.
I have a set of both - bought years ago, back in Blighty. They are all held via a spring clips on a big ring .... black for metric and silver for imperial. There must be at 6 (maybe 8) of each, from very small to medium sizes.
They weren't expensive and aren't precision made - plus a not all intermediate sizes are included.

I use the silver (imperial) ones just as much (if not more) than the metric ones, as often the bolt I need it for hasn't got the correct metric size, and the imperial size fits.

When force is needed, I use a bit and a ratchet.
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Old 18.06.2015, 23:49
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Re: Allen Key

I always thought that the Inbus keys were a bit different than the Allen keys. The Allen keys are "straight" and the Inbus keys (often sold in CH as the other end of the Allen keys) are rounded.

See this photo to see the two keys together. The Allen keys alone are not like this.

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Old 19.06.2015, 00:01
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I always thought that the Inbus keys were a bit different than the Allen keys. The Allen keys are "straight" and the Inbus keys (often sold in CH as the other end of the Allen keys) are rounded.
No, they are not.

Some INBUS or Allens have rounded ends, others not.

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Inbus, also in Italian.

Tom

and clé inbus (or clef inbus) in Romandie.

vs. clé allen in France and in Québec.
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Old 19.06.2015, 00:31
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Re: Allen Key

still "Vise Grip " in Quebec "Cle Vise Grip"
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Re: Allen Key

The round part or end of Inbus is for screw/unscrew from uncommon angle, when you cant reach bolt head easily, lean the Inbus with that end and... Voila!
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still "Vise Grip " in Quebec "Cle Vise Grip"
In Canada I would use a vise-grip as well. Because who has Robertson keys?

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Old 19.06.2015, 15:54
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In Canada I would use a vise-grip as well. Because who has Robertson keys?

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In the USA you mean .Like all the good tradesman I have hundreds of them , but if I need one I can`t find one .Now YOU I now have to go and buy a screw driver
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No, they are not.

Some INBUS or Allens have rounded ends, others not.
In Migros these are called Kugelkopfstifte (bullet/ball - head - but why stifte?)

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In Canada I would use a vise-grip as well. Because who has Robertson keys?
In the UK this is a mole grip or mole wrench (after the original maker).

They're a brilliant design, apart from the release lever snapping into place just where the fleshy part of your hand is when you're not careful
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Old 19.06.2015, 16:12
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In Migros these are called Kugelkopfstifte (bullet/ball - head - but why stifte?)
Stift - longish piece of something. Also used in Swiss German for an apprentice. Also used for headless rivets - Kopflose Niete.


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They're a brilliant design, apart from the release lever snapping into place just where the fleshy part of your hand is when you're not careful
Matador has the action of the lever reversed. Nice, non-pinching feature. They are available at Bauhaus . Unfortunaly only the large one (others may be ordered on request?!). But that is the one where it hurts most.
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In the UK this is a mole grip or mole wrench (after the original maker).
The first patent for the Vise-Grip (USA) was granted in 1921, with improvements patented in 1924 and the easy release lever added in 1957. Mole Grip (UK) was developed in 1955.

So which one is the original?
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Old 19.06.2015, 16:54
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The first patent for the Vise-Grip (USA) was granted in 1921, with improvements patented in 1924 and the easy release lever added in 1957. Mole Grip (UK) was developed in 1955.

So which one is the original?
Yes, I should have said "original maker in the UK".
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