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Old 13.07.2015, 12:31
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Re: Der, Die und Das

Most females are "Die", except the one who works at the Volg in the next town. Judging by the amount of facial and body hair, I think you could get away with any of the three and still be anatomically correct.
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Old 13.07.2015, 14:28
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I just grunt "d' " and hope I get away with it.
And you will virtually all of the time.

I'll get groaned for this no doubt, but if you find yourself learning German at an older age, and have no intention of becoming a writer or somebody who needs to communicate with German at a very high level, then learning the Der, Die, Das by rote is going to take a lot of time which you may find more useful spent in getting to understand other aspects of the language.

Yes, I know it's a corner stone of German grammar, but you'll still be perfectly understandable if you do screw up your Der, Die, or Das. I will say that It's useful to know the Nominative, Accusative, Dative and Genative flow so you can follow through on whatever article you've started with.

If you want or need to become accomplished at German and get yourself through the advanced exams then Der, Die Das is a must. If on the other hand you need to simply get quickly competent at communicating day to day in German, and you're not worried about getting through exams, then you may find it useful to not worry so much about Der, Die, Das. If you get the wrong article you'll simply sound a bit funny - that's all

Nobody here has ever commented about or brought me to book on my errant use of German articles.
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Re: Der, Die und Das

I certainly won't groan you, Slaphead, but if you don't know the gender of the noun you want to use, you most likely won't be able to use adjectives correctly, either, which would leave your conversation rather dry and boring. No amount of grunting will cover up a missed "en" on a dative. And avoiding the correct article means you'll miss out on all the fun of explaining "der Frau" to non-believers.

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No, the chart is OKish, although every German language teacher recommended to just learn the nouns together with their articles and to not insist in looking for a logic in establishing the gender of a noun, because in most cases there isn't, any.
My native language too has 3 genders which also seem to make some sense, but the more words you know the more you discover that there are very few patterns that function all the time. E.g. in German - names of professions when they are practiced by females are ending in "-in" which indicates the feminine gender and go with the article "die". (Ärtzin, Lehrerin, etc etc)
For me it is fun, especially when genders from native language are different than the genders in German (for instance coffee is masculine in German, whereas I always perceived it as something feminine)......complicated.
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Schweinhund is der because Hund is der. The last word in a composite always dictates the article.

It would be impressive to put all 3 above into one sentence :P
Die woch, der Midwoch.
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"Okish"

Dont quit your day job and become a lawyer.

Don't quite your day job and become a translator/interpreter.

The idea was that the chart is "solving" only a part of the der, die, das "problem"....
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Die woch, der Midwoch.
Indeed, gender is a minor problem when learning the language...
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Indeed, gender is a minor problem when learning the language...
He's referring to a couple of other, more fundamental problems with those two words, Ms WW...
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