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German for work

Gruezi all,

I am still in America, but am planning on moving to CH by next August 1. I will be in Zurich in November,inuring on jobs.
German is my first language as my mom is Swiss, but I certainly need improvement. What is a GOOD online course I can take? I've tested between A2-C1 on various CERF tests, but my children are foreign to German (12,13).

Many thanks!
Ilona
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Re: German for work

Duolingo is a free online system, though whether it goes high enough for you I don't know. Babbel is another one, but you have to pay for that I believe.

A whole load of suggestions here too:

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Are you more interested in speaking or writing? It makes a difference.
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If you're thinking of moving back here with a couple of teenagers be warned that they're likely to have a very difficult time adjusting to school here unless you put them into an international school - which will cost a fortune. At their ages, without a really good command of German, it'll be very difficult for them to keep up with their school work. They'll also be streamed (to aim for uni or an apprenticeship, etc) around that age iirc which will also make things difficult for them of they can't speak/write the language well.
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If you're thinking of moving back here with a couple of teenagers be warned that they're likely to have a very difficult time adjusting to school here unless you put them into an international school - which will cost a fortune. At their ages, without a really good command of German, it'll be very difficult for them to keep up with their school work. They'll also be streamed (to aim for uni or an apprenticeship, etc) around that age iirc which will also make things difficult for them of they can't speak/write the language well.
This is very true. It may be necessary to repeat a year in order to
get the language. Hopefully, their ego's would not be hurt.
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Re: German for work

Yes, thank you all..duly noted!

"Are you more interested in speaking or writing? It makes a difference."
HollidayG - I speak fairly well, as is, but need to increase proficiency in my profession (therapy). I'd actually say both, but more so in speaking.

As for my children..yes, it will be difficult. I was lucky enough to be able to attend the international school in Kilchberg before prices became what they are now, but my children won't have that option. I will be spending a great deal of time helping my children, I know. I am intending on sending them to German-language school, which I hope will help a bit.

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Re: German for work

Regarding your children's education, educationsuisse.ch presents an overview of the Swiss educational system at this link. Possibly of use:

http://www.educationsuisse.ch/en/education-switzerland

Also, as a "returning Swiss" you might also want to look at the Auslandschweizer-Organisation website:

http://aso.ch/en/consultation/back-to-switzerland

http://www.aso.ch/files/webcontent/r..._with_logo.pdf
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Yes, I shall look at the sites, many thanks! My mother told me of a child who came into her class when she was in 4th grade and what an incredible the teachers /staff did in helping the child transition. I wonder of immigrants and what their children do, because there are not many who can afford the high cost of the international schools.
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Re: German for work

Swiss public schools are geared up to help kids coming into the system from outside with things like extra language tuition, but it's more the age of your children that will make things difficult for them. If they were younger (up to 8/9 or so) then they'd pick up the language/s much more quickly. 10+ they start to struggle, add to that the adjustment to a new school system and working to get necessary grades for whatever they plan to do in the future makes it much harder.

If you can I would start language lessons now, either by teaching them yourself or using a class or online system to get them started. The more they can speak/write before they get here the better it will be for them.
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Gruezi all,

I am still in America, but am planning on moving to CH by next August 1. I will be in Zurich in November,inuring on jobs.
German is my first language as my mom is Swiss, but I certainly need improvement. What is a GOOD online course I can take? I've tested between A2-C1 on various CERF tests, but my children are foreign to German (12,13).

Many thanks!
Ilona

Ilona, for you, stop reading English NOW, only read German. Magazines, Newspapers, books. Try now to start translating your own professional stuff into German. Try to establish some contacts in the field you are planning on working in and ask them to send you some representative texts so you can get an idea of the level and style commonly used. The higher the level you read at the better your vocabulary is, and reading literature from the field will help you get to grips with the terminology.


For the children, you probably won't get much buy in from them to learn German until they actually need it. Once here and into the school system they will be immersed. Consider timing your arrival here so that the children have a few months to take a half day course before school starts - that way the transition won't be so abrupt. I say half day as that will give them some time to discover things here, rather than them being "stuck in this stupid all day course which Mommy sent us on even though we legally have school holidays".
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Swiss public schools are geared up to help kids coming into the system from outside with things like extra language tuition, but it's more the age of your children that will make things difficult for them. If they were younger (up to 8/9 or so) then they'd pick up the language/s much more quickly. 10+ they start to struggle, add to that the adjustment to a new school system and working to get necessary grades for whatever they plan to do in the future makes it much harder.

If you can I would start language lessons now, either by teaching them yourself or using a class or online system to get them started. The more they can speak/write before they get here the better it will be for them.
SRF produced a documentary on an Argentine family that emigrated to Switzerland in 1989. The three oldest children were 13, 11 and 11. In 2010 SRF produced another documentary on how the family was doing in Switzerland and visited the three oldest children. They were all doing fine in 2010 and glad to be in Switzerland. The documentary is called "Heimatlos mit Schweizerpass":

http://www.srf.ch/play/tv/dok-fortse...b-8cd655e574ad

As an aside, the father, although untrained, spoke German and was able to find an unskilled job promptly.
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I moved to Zurich when I was 14. Granted, I went to an International school, but I was living with my swiss great aunt and was otherwise immersed in Swiss culture. It was the greatest year of my life and I loved it. My daughter (12 year old) is much like me, my 13 year old is an introvert & hates school..but he would do so well her, provided we get over the hump that I know we will hit. He is a brilliant kid who doesn't fare well in the American school system and he is a main reason why I feel Switzerland is the answer (apprenticeships). I spoke German with him until he was 2 years old at which point an agency told to me to immediately stop German and speak only English (they waved words like 'autistic spectrum disorder' in my face), so I did. Turned out he is fine, just doesn't do well in the school settings like so many boys here. His speech is dotted with evidence of German foundation (where he places verbs in sentences).
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[QUOTE=JagWaugh;2442253]Ilona, for you, stop reading English NOW, only read German. Magazines, Newspapers, books. Try now to start translating your own professional stuff into German. Try to establish some contacts in the field you are planning on working in and ask them to send you some representative texts so you can get an idea of the level and style commonly used. The higher the level you read at the better your vocabulary is, and reading literature from the field will help you get to grips with the terminology.

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