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Old 28.10.2008, 08:31
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Re: Busfahrer/Busführer

... and in High German (legalese German, actually) the word "Luftfahrzeugführer" exists happily. It is the German way of saying "pilot in command." My buddy who is a captain for LH even has it on his company-issued business card.

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Old 28.10.2008, 13:07
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Nope, on the trams and buses right now in Zurich there are ads up saying that you can ride the public transport for free by becoming a "busführer"
I don't think Busführer is correct Ch-German. VBZ has been employing a lot of Germans lately and the high-German style of writing shows in notices etc. All very say as a lot of local colour is lost. But if you can't get the staff, that is what you must expect ...
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Old 28.10.2008, 13:15
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btw, the term 'Führerschein' is widely used in Germany as well, so I think you're wrong that such a term would ever be used there. Führer is a common german word and it's only in the non-german speaking world that it's exclusively used in a hitler-context.
Not really. My tram-driving friends get great kicks out of addressing one another as "Herr Führer", of course pronounced in an exaggerated high-German accent.
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Old 28.10.2008, 13:20
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Re: Busfahrer/Busführer

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Also here in the east but more specifically for a coach driver

...that is then the car chauffeur
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Old 28.10.2008, 13:26
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...that is then the car chauffeur
Correct. Have to write more.
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Old 28.10.2008, 13:30
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It is not the first time there is a language mistake on a public poster.
You can't führen a bus, you fährst it from fahren.
You führst a train from führen.
They mixed it up, it's not your fault.

Führer means guide or conductor, Reiseführer, Lokführer... A scout master is also a Führer... Moses was a Führer to his people out of slavery... lots of possibilities for this word.
And a chauffeur is a heater, or more precisely a stoker or fireman. A flashback to the days of steam engines.

A person responsble for any vehicle (ie, normally the driver) is the Fahrzeugführer.

Führen does not just mean to lead but can also mean to take or transport, as in Abführen, Rückführen, Ausführen etc.
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Re: Busfahrer/Busführer

Yes, it's definitely "Bus Chauffeur" here.

On the Swiss Driving Licence is "Führerausweis".
"Fahren" means to drive or ride and "führen" means to lead or drive, depending on the vehicle involved.
In England we have "Parteiführer" - Party Leader and in CH we have "Parteipresident".
"Führer" is a word of endless connotation for the British, and "fahrt" is an endless source of mirth when British relatives come to visit!!

There is also "Autolenker" - car driver.
Such rich linguistic pickings.

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