veraaloe - you are absolutely right, there is no substitute for german classes, the original question that was asked was how someone could improve their german before joining a class that didn't start for some time. You are also right in that it is shameful that there are a lot of native english speaking people here that seem unwilling to communicate in german...this is certainly not my intent.. for myself I was promised german classes by the company I work for and they have failed to deliver on that promise, I work for an american company who, rightly or wrongly, use english as their business language and so I can't argue that I need german for business and insist they honour that promise. The two internet courses I have used have helped me an awful lot in the absence of a class and were simply a suggestion for someone wishing to suppliment their german lessons. Also I have experienced, several times, that I go into a shop and speak german but on hearing my accent the shop workers automatically speak english in reply....what's a girl to do? I continue my battle to improve my german and intend fully to continue to do so, and will be starting classes myself soon