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...the difference between anymore and any more

You mean people think it means that same thing?
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Like a use of "while" instead of "whilst"?
That's not a real correction is it?

The Guardian, for example, frowns on 'whilst'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:05
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i would love to use the apostrophe if i could find the bloody thing on the keyboard
Did you remember to open up your laptop?

I find that helps a great deal.
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No reason not to split an infinitive, no reason to avoid double negatives, no reason to avoid using 'they' or 'their' for the third person singular, no reason to avoid putting a preposition at the end of a sentence.

All of these are matters of style and personal preference.

Unlike, on the other hand, the greengrocer's apostrophe, which is simply a sign of barbarity.[/QUO


i would love to use the apostrophe if i could find the bloody thing on the keyboard
Normally either under @ or above 8!
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:06
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Re: Use of the apostrophe and other linguistic pitfalls

Interesting, I was told never to put a comma after a but or an and because it simply isn't necessary as the pause or breath is assumed.

Cannock is famous for being the sign you look at for 2 hours as you crawl along after the M6 and M5 have smashed into each other, O and Tiffany of course.
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:06
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You mean people think it means that same thing?
Oh yes. Frequently seen in emails "if I can be of anymore help..."
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Old 25.03.2010, 18:07
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Arkansa's
Massachusett's
Kansa's
Texa's
Ala'ska
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Don't forget Illinoi's. Another (verbal) assault is when people say, "So you're from Chicago, Ill-i-noise?" No, it's "Ill-i-noy" and is a French derivative. Once a friend tried to be awesome and call the suburb of Des Planes by its French pronunciation. Sadly, in Chicago, it's pronounced with the 's' firmly attached to both words. Thus, I have started calling all French-derivative US cities and states by their French names. Detroit sounds much better when it is "De-twa" and sounds much more inviting than the shithole that it is in actuality.
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Oh yes. Frequently seen in emails "if I can be of anymore help..."


(Not at you )
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Don't forget Illinoi's. Another (verbal) assault is when people say, "So you're from Chicago, Ill-i-noise?" No, it's "Ill-i-noy" and is a French derivative. Once a friend tried to be awesome and call the suburb of Des Planes by its French pronunciation. Sadly, in Chicago, it's pronounced with the 's' firmly attached to both words. Thus, I have started calling all French-derivative US cities and states by their French names. Detroit sounds much better when it is "De-twa" and sounds much more inviting than the shithole that it is in actuality.
But how do you say 'paella'?
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Interesting, I was told never to put a comma after a but or an and because it simply isn't necessary as the pause or breath is assumed.
And I was told to never start a sentence with 'And', but frequently do.
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That's not a real correction is it?

The Guardian, for example, frowns on 'whilst'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While
The Guardian would. They probably can't spell "whilst" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...aper_misprints)
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Interesting, I was told never to put a comma after a but or an and because it simply isn't necessary as the pause or breath is assumed.
It's rarer to use a comma after an 'and' than not.
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The Guardian would. They probably can't spell "whilst" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...per_misprints)
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Notably, there are no style guides that explicitly recommend the usage of whilst over while in any circumstance whatsoever. The general consensus among scholars of English is that whilst is an unnecessary and archaic word whose primary usage is by Britons who prefer what they perceive as a more 'noble' word. Its etymology derives from the early English whiles and, simply put, while is the word that has replaced whilst in modern English, just as thee and thou were replaced by you.
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I believe that there are literally 5 US states that have an apostrophe in their name but, sadly, I do not know what they are.
Which.

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Back atcha, Weejeem!
I find that outwith the realms of possibility.

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Fine, but the Yanks' pronunciation of Notre Dame (the University) really grates. Where did they get this from?


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The Guardian would. They probably can't spell "whilst" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...aper_misprints)
Which is why it is endearingly referred to as the Grauniad.
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Which is why it is endearingly referred to as the Grauniad.
Hence the link to the private eye page on Wikipedia
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Fine, but the Yanks' pronunciation of Notre Dame (the University) really grates. Where did they get this from?
M'dear economisto, you must understand that nearly 75-80% of all Americans do not own passports. Foreign language education is a luxury to most people. Plop down a university in the middle of farmland in northern Indiana, and you get people who pronounce Notre Dame as "Note-er Dame".
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Hence the link to the private eye page on Wikipedia
Sorry, didn't read the link . Please accept (not except) my most humble apologies.


Another point; I have to send out documents for review and people can't seem to accept that "If a subject were to withdraw...." is correct, and they change it to "If a subject was to withdraw..."

Maybe it's me and I'm incorrectly using the subjunctive (but I don't think so).
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