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Urgent Tax Return.

Hi, As submitting tax return is a must for de registering, I doing it with an agent and he says it will take couple of months for the authorities to examine it and finalise my tax.
How can I do it urgently? My village authorities need to know I have submitted the tax return and paid the tax before processing me de registration process.

And do I have to submit the tax return for January 2015 as well? I was not working and I am not in Switzerland?
Thanks Jason
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Old 07.01.2015, 01:22
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

You phone the tax office, make an appointment. Go there with the declaration (the tax return), and they work out how much you owe on the spot. Pay the money, get the stamp, and then de-register (in person).
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

Thanks for the reply.
I am out of country and not in a position to return to Switzerland. So tax return and de registering should be done by the tax agent and my friend respectively.
This is what I am going to do..
Tax agent will submit my tax return online. And my friend will contact the local tax office.
I have not paid any tax in 2014, I expect to get the due amount and I will be paying the tax on the spot.
Once tax clearance document is given to my friend, he will go to the local gemeinde to de register.(I will send out my permit and a letter to the gemeinde office directly)
Hope it will work.
Jason
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Thanks for the reply.
I am out of country and not in a position to return to Switzerland. So tax return and de registering should be done by the tax agent and my friend respectively.
This is what I am going to do..
Tax agent will submit my tax return online. And my friend will contact the local tax office.
I have not paid any tax in 2014, I expect to get the due amount and I will be paying the tax on the spot.
Once tax clearance document is given to my friend, he will go to the local gemeinde to de register.(I will send out my permit and a letter to the gemeinde office directly)
Hope it will work.
Jason
On the spot? It's not how it works here. We waited for a refund once that took 4 years.
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

As you still haven't de-registered, you will be paying some tax for this year as well...
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As you still haven't de-registered, you will be paying some tax for this year as well...
Not if the OP has earned no income taxable in Switzerland in 2015. That's why it's called income tax.
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Hi, As submitting tax return is a must for de registering, I doing it with an agent and he says it will take couple of months for the authorities to examine it and finalise my tax.
How can I do it urgently? My village authorities need to know I have submitted the tax return and paid the tax before processing me de registration process.

And do I have to submit the tax return for January 2015 as well? I was not working and I am not in Switzerland?
Thanks Jason
The agent should be able to give you a document to present to the village authorities that he is completing your tax returns. My agent did.
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

What your Gemeinde is doing (or threatening to do) is illegal.

As rainer_d mentioned in a separate thread, your Gemeinde is not allowed to make your de-registration dependent on your settling your taxes. There is a decision of the Federal Court from 2001 (BGE 127 I 97) which explicitly ruled that this is not allowed. You might want to mention this politely to your Gemeinde office. If they don't issue the de-registration within a reasonable time, you could even claim any costs from them which you incur as a result of the delay.

The point is that there are procedures for tax returns, and for collecting outstanding tax, and the de-registration process has nothing to do with them, so your Gemeinde is breaking the law ("Willkürverbot") if they try to delay your de-registration because of something which relates to tax.
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

we're located in Vaud, and the de-registration process had nothing to do with our taxes. We had to go in person to sign and provide an address abroad, and then with the official paperwork stating our departure date then go and complete out taxes....
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What your Gemeinde is doing (or threatening to do) is illegal.

As rainer_d mentioned in a separate thread, your Gemeinde is not allowed to make your de-registration dependent on your settling your taxes. There is a decision of the Federal Court from 2001 (BGE 127 I 97) which explicitly ruled that this is not allowed. You might want to mention this politely to your Gemeinde office. If they don't issue the de-registration within a reasonable time, you could even claim any costs from them which you incur as a result of the delay.

The point is that there are procedures for tax returns, and for collecting outstanding tax, and the de-registration process has nothing to do with them, so your Gemeinde is breaking the law ("Willkürverbot") if they try to delay your de-registration because of something which relates to tax.
Interestingly ZH required tax paid in Cash before issuing a leaving certificate, they have since refunded more than they demanded.
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we're located in Vaud, and the de-registration process had nothing to do with our taxes. We had to go in person to sign and provide an address abroad, and then with the official paperwork stating our departure date then go and complete out taxes....
hope this helps
did u go in person directly to sign or need to make an appointment first?
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

hi,

Just call the tax office. They can work on the timeline and etc for you.

You might not even need the tax agent. You can do it over the phone and once you have one point of contact person, you can communicate everything via email too.

I've done it (not the same reason). good luck
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

Until you've de-registered you're liable to pay taxes. There's not just income, but also wealth tax.

You may need to show up in person to deregister, that is specific to the Gemeinde. Ask them (including, if necessary, if they can make an exception considering your situation).

It's probably better not to use an agent, at least not until you're clear on the procedure and timeline. In all likelihood, doing it yourself would actually speed up the whole process.
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Re: Urgent Tax Return.

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What your Gemeinde is doing (or threatening to do) is illegal.

As rainer_d mentioned in a separate thread, your Gemeinde is not allowed to make your de-registration dependent on your settling your taxes. There is a decision of the Federal Court from 2001 (BGE 127 I 97) which explicitly ruled that this is not allowed. You might want to mention this politely to your Gemeinde office. If they don't issue the de-registration within a reasonable time, you could even claim any costs from them which you incur as a result of the delay.

The point is that there are procedures for tax returns, and for collecting outstanding tax, and the de-registration process has nothing to do with them, so your Gemeinde is breaking the law ("Willkürverbot") if they try to delay your de-registration because of something which relates to tax.
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did u go in person directly to sign or need to make an appointment first?
You can actually just walk in I believe...
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