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Moving, but not permanently

Hi all,

I'm in need of advice. I'm planning on moving back to Ireland for work at the end of August with my two children while my partner stays and works in Zurich. I'm probably only going back to Ireland until Christmas or at the latest until June 2016 and then plan on returning to Switzerland.

Do I have to return my B permit and then reapply for it again when i come back or can I just keep hold of it? same goes for driving licence?

am guessing cancelling our health insurance will be straight forward???

If anyone has experience with this please let me know

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Re: Moving, but not permanently

Depends on how long you're going to be away for. You can be away for a maximum of 6 months at a time so if you come back at Christmas you'll be okay. If you're away until June next year then you should properly de-register with your gemeinde and then apply for a new B permit on your return. They'll give you a document which you can use to cancel things like the health insurance, mobile phone contracts, etc.

Driving licence I have no idea about, sorry, but again may depend on how long you're away for. Until Christmas no problem, longer maybe.
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Check with the school on this if you don't plan to de-register. Since school is compulsory here, I think you'd need permission to take the kids out and provide proof of what schooling they will have while you're out of the country. Of course if you de-register then you don't need anything special.
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Thanks, kids are only 1 and 2 so school not a problem for awhile yet
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Depends on how long you're going to be away for. You can be away for a maximum of 6 months at a time so if you come back at Christmas you'll be okay. If you're away until June next year then you should properly de-register with your gemeinde and then apply for a new B permit on your return. They'll give you a document which you can use to cancel things like the health insurance, mobile phone contracts, etc.

Driving licence I have no idea about, sorry, but again may depend on how long you're away for. Until Christmas no problem, longer maybe.
If the OP have a subsided phone, the chance of cancelling the contract is zero.

A Swiss Driving license never expires, you can usually use your old license for upto a year in a new country.
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Re: Moving, but not permanently

A year in and I'm still using my old Irish mobile!

So can I keep hold of my Swiss driving licence, I had to give my old one in to get in?
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Do I have to return my B permit and then reapply for it again when i come back or can I just keep hold of it? same goes for driving licence?

am guessing cancelling our health insurance will be straight forward??
You do not HAVE to do any of that. It's just that some things are preconditions to some others, with yet more being consequences.

So:

To be able to cancel Swiss health insurance, you will have to prove that you de-registered. De-registration directly implies that you will loose your B permit.

If you leave the country for longer than six months at a time, and if the administration notices, then by law you are no longer entitled to your B permit. With your B permit gone, you will have picked of residence elsewhere - and that "elsewhere" (Ireland) will have legislation on how long they accept the Swiss driver's licence until converting it to a local licence.

Recommendation - if you want to stay on the safe side:
- stay registered
- keep health insurance
- keep driver's licence
- come back to a flat which can host your partner and you at least every five months

Nobody knows how B permits are going to work out in a year's time.

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So can I keep hold of my Swiss driving licence, I had to give my old one in to get in?
If you move to Ireland as your place of residence, you will have to convert to an Irish driver's licence. At this time, you will have to hand in the Swiss licence.

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Re: Moving, but not permanently

You need to assume for swiss authorities to turn very nosy if you exchanged your swiss license while gone inofficially.

One thing you definitely want to take a very close look at are health and accident insurance, whether you leave in/officially or not, and whether you leave for 3 or 9 months - will you and your two kids be covered underway and abroad? To what extent, and for how long?

Since you go back to Ireland for work, it may mean that the alternative would be to receive unemployment benefits in Switzerland, or some other form of social security payments. That would probably mean for the government to welcome your temporary move, which in turn may create wiggle room and willingness to temporarily look the other way.

I would tend to make this official, if doable. Because, shit does happen and if it does while you're on the wrong end you may end up in a whole world of pain, and then some.
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