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Old 01.10.2016, 23:24
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Best country to retire

I am 55 and would like to retire at 58. I have about a million in liquid funds (including apartment, although that is strictly not liquid) and another half a million plus in my retirement fund.

I think me and the wife will get CHF 3000.00 per month from the CH government, plus another CHF 1000.00 from my country of origin (I have been in CH for almost 20 years) once we hit 65. Not sure what I get from my retirement fund.

I do not want to retire in Switzerland. Should I move to Italy, Spain, Romania, Germany, France or even the UK? Fiji? Ecuador?

I assume CHF 50K a year is quite comfortable in most countries?

As you can see from my open ended question, I have no clue, and just started thinking about this the day before yesterday.
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Old 01.10.2016, 23:28
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Re: Best country to retire

Well, what do you want? Cheap living, oceans, seas, mountains, warmth, cold, lots of people around, no people around?

Health care system, nearby or far, do you want to see relatives and friends often whilst living there?
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Old 01.10.2016, 23:39
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Re: Best country to retire

It all depends on what you value: good medical treatment, no crime, knowing local language, the climate and scenery... amongst a few.

I know such early retirees couple, they decided to backpack travel for a few years unless health condition will stop them. They stay ~3-6 months in one place then move.

Side question, did you made 1mil CHF in 20 years? Congratulation!
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Well, what do you want? Cheap living, oceans, seas, mountains, warmth, cold, lots of people around, no people around?

Health care system, nearby or far, do you want to see relatives and friends often whilst living there?
All of the above, in this order:
- cheap living
- oceans, seas, mountains (i.e. nature)
- friendly people
- warm or decent weather
- no people around, but close to lots of people when I am in the mood
- good healthcare system
- possibility to go back home and visit friends and relatives, and for them to come visit

So, it is a mixed bag really. I am just starting the thought process.
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Old 01.10.2016, 23:44
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So, it is a mixed bag really. I am just starting the thought process.
As you said you have the next 3 years to decide. Google for 'Best places to retire' and read more about interesting findings.
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Old 01.10.2016, 23:47
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Re: Best country to retire

If the language bareer and harsh winters weren't there I'd say Prague.

How do you want to spend your retirement? Active? Learning? Sports? Charity projects? Any particular hobbies/arts/culture preference?

US, become a Nat. Park Ranger.
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Old 01.10.2016, 23:50
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As you said you have the next 3 years to decide. Google for 'Best places to retire' and read more about interesting findings.
That is exactly what I have been doing. Ecuador is top of the list, but I am not an American. Thought I would throw this out to the English forum and see how much battering I would get

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Old 01.10.2016, 23:57
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If the language bareer and harsh winters weren't there I'd say Prague.

How do you want to spend your retirement? Active? Learning? Sports? Charity projects? Any particular hobbies/arts/culture preference?

US, become a Nat. Park Ranger.
Prague is great, but Bratislava is even better. Would like to spend retirement doing the least amount of stuff possible, but still like arts, learning, charity and eating good food, and drinking beer.

Perhaps I should move to Colorado. Nice people, mountains, and I hear they legalized pot? Doubt CHF 50K will do it though?

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Re: Best country to retire

Anyway do you look for a country to stay there 12 months a year?

My plan is to come back to Poland, there are beautiful places there, but live there ~ 6 months a year. I would rather hate the autumn & spring so I plan to have a second home in Spain or Grand Canaria.
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Prague is great, but Bratislava is even better. Would like to spend retirement doing the least amount of stuff possible, but still like arts, learning, charity and eating good food, and drinking beer.

Perhaps I should move to Colorado.
I would. But would move out during the presidential election hysteria.
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Wales?
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Wales?
Wales is very beautiful but I can´t stand the accent.
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I was going to propose Iceland, and then i looked at your profile..

Does the weather have to be warm?
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Pitcairn Island.
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I was going to propose Iceland, and then i looked at your profile..

Does the weather have to be warm?
Ok, I am Icelandic and I do not want to retire back home. It is always windy (storms) and raining and the place is full of tourists trying to see the northern lights (spoiler alert: they look nothing like the pictures you see).

I do not want to retire in Switzerland because I can not afford it, a couple of million is just chump change here. Italy? Spain? Slovakia? UK? Anyone have any suggestions? Warm would be nice.
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Old 02.10.2016, 02:00
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Ok, I am Icelandic and I do not want to retire back home. It is always windy (storms) and raining and the place is full of tourists trying to see the northern lights (spoiler alert: they look nothing like the pictures you see).

I do not want to retire in Switzerland because I can not afford it, a couple of million is just chump change here. Italy? Spain? Slovakia? UK? Anyone have any suggestions? Warm would be nice.
Ive seen the Northen lights and you are right. The pictures are totally not like it is.

Have you thought about Dublin? Its not hot and sunny all the time but if you are thinking UK, then its not much different.

And think of Cyprus as well. We have loads of British retirees.

BTW, also think about Hull in the UK. (I maaay be a little biased about that :P)
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All of the above, in this order:
- cheap living
- oceans, seas, mountains (i.e. nature)
- friendly people
- warm or decent weather
- no people around, but close to lots of people when I am in the mood
- good healthcare system
- possibility to go back home and visit friends and relatives, and for them to come visit
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Would like to spend retirement doing the least amount of stuff possible, but still like arts, learning, charity and eating good food, and drinking beer.
It's called Greece

My perfect life would be living in Greece on a Swiss income.
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Old 02.10.2016, 08:29
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You could always live tax free in Portugal...
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Ok, I am Icelandic and I do not want to retire back home. It is always windy (storms) and raining and the place is full of tourists trying to see the northern lights (spoiler alert: they look nothing like the pictures you see).

I do not want to retire in Switzerland because I can not afford it, a couple of million is just chump change here. Italy? Spain? Slovakia? UK? Anyone have any suggestions? Warm would be nice.
Do you like to fish, sail and ride horses? Then perhaps Sardinia or Corsica! Otherwise can have a look here: https://www.englishforum.ch/general-...000-month.html
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Re: Best country to retire

For me it will be Berlin. Great city, lots of cultural things to do, living on the outskirts of the city allows me to go for nice walks at the lakes and in the forests. And I hope to fullfil my dream of going back to university.

Downside is definitely the tax system...............
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