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Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

Hi, I am searching for a place in Germany (ideally) near the border for example Koblenz or Waldshut, where to take my Renault Clio Sport 2.0 and my Wife´s Citroen C2 for inspection and reparing.

In Switerland we live in Zufikon, Near Bremgarten. Also recomendations of garages who´s mechanics talk a little bit of English to explain easily what the problems are would be ideal.

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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

If you just require a "regular" service - a main dealer here would charge <500chf

A smaller mechanic would get it down lower - 400chf.

Does the car have any other known issues?

If not - I would be tempted to find a place near where you work and drop the car in before work - pick up after - and save yourself the time/hassle/cost of going to Germany.
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

hehehehe never had a renault have you ken? I had the clio 172 first ed. the first proper service on that cost me over 10% the price of the car, that's when I told them to stop, they wanted to change a lot more. was a brand new car and I was the first owner.

Then I swore I'd never buy another french car!!
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hehehehe never had a renault have you ken? I had the clio 172 first ed. the first proper service on that cost me over 10% the price of the car, that's when I told them to stop, they wanted to change a lot more. was a brand new car and I was the first owner.

Then I swore I'd never buy another french car!!

I agree I wont buy a French car in the future, but for now, I need to be able to repair them because I dont have the money to buy another one.

I have a Renault Clio 2 Sport that the (tailpipe?) broke completely, the silencer actually went completely off and the tubes I see they are rusty. 2 Weeks before having this incident I did have to change the radiator in Switzerland and I had to spend 420 CHF thinking that was the last problem I would have for a while. Before that, 8 months ago I had to invest around 1500 CHF between some wheel problems and other stuff. Now I dont want to spend anymore, just want to know if I could eventually spend around CHF 200 to get the tailpope or auspuff as its called in German and see if the car would run for a couple of more months.

Then the C2 Its making a strange loud noise that seems to be related to one or two of the left side wheels.Also I need to make the mechanichal control and I know that It need its brakes changed, probably the tires too.

Consider the Clio has 235.000 KM and the C2 102.000 so their value is actually very low.
In Switzerland reparing these cars would cost us a lot, I want to check in Germany if I could have a better pricing.

Also if you have any good trustable places to get good used cars (maybe I can see on a website?) in Switzerland I would be willing to analyze.

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

all the garages I've used here have been reliable, but none have been cheap yet to find a cheap garage here.

so you just need the back box? do you have the skills to change it yourself?
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all the garages I've used here have been reliable, but none have been cheap yet to find a cheap garage here.

so you just need the back box? do you have the skills to change it yourself?
Should be an easy job! You just need to find a couple of vaguely hand EFers with garage space - tools - and are easily bribed with a case of beer.

Know anyone BB2?
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

And a free weekend, maybe a long weekend, if only there was one coming up
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

I was just coming here to ask about basic car maintenance. I was told that I need an oil change and brake check, so oil, filter, check brakes for wear and quoted 500-800 CHF. That seems rather high. Is there some part of the "service" that I am missing that would put the price up there?
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I was just coming here to ask about basic car maintenance. I was told that I need an oil change and brake check, so oil, filter, check brakes for wear and quoted 500-800 CHF. That seems rather high. Is there some part of the "service" that I am missing that would put the price up there?
labour costs.
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labour costs.

That seems high even with Swiss labor costs. An oil change and brake check should take less than an hour.
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I was just coming here to ask about basic car maintenance. I was told that I need an oil change and brake check, so oil, filter, check brakes for wear and quoted 500-800 CHF. That seems rather high. Is there some part of the "service" that I am missing that would put the price up there?
Did you check the pads, disc yourself or did the garage inform you?
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

Oh, this isn't for brake replacement, this is to check the brakes to see if they need to be replaced. I took the car in for a different issue and they said I needed service immediately. (It does need an oil change, I am in complete agreement with that.)
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

price of parts here is stupidly high, really really stupidly high added to the labour costs and you have a silly high cost of service.

doing an oil change yourself is a messy job

find out how much per liter they are charging for the oil, and if you can take your own in instead, if they are ok with that just buy the cheapest coop etc has in.
(although they will probably 'find' some other issues that need fixing to make up for it)
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

you've probably been quoted a minor service schedule. Hourly charges are 100+ per hour; mine are 180 francs per hour and a minor service on the schedule is 3.5 hours.
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

Have you visually checked the brakes yourself. Once a garage informed me I needed knew pads until I told him to take the wheel off and show me. Hence he declined and said his apprentice had made a mistake, yeah really.
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

An oil change is rather minor and something I can easily do myself. I am just kind of overscheduled and don't want to go to the hassle if I don't have to.

Is there a list of what is done on a minor service schedule (even in German)? I don't mind paying if the rate is fair, I just am a bit of a control freak and want to know what I am getting for my money.
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

Google "service schedule" and your car model.

Look, I found mine: http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albu...%2520miles.pdf
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

OK, I wasn't sure that it was the same across countries. If it is, I can find it. Thanks! (ETA: I am regularly surprised by things that I think are standard, really are not. It is good to know this is.)
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Re: Reliable Garage to repair cars in Switzerland or in Germany?

A service is more than just an oil and filter change - but you knew that, didn't you?

A "proper" service will also inspect:
- CV joints
- Steering
- Wheels and Tyres
- Suspension components - including bushes and tie rods
- Seals, clips, hoses and pipes
- Brakes - including discs, pads, sensors, pipes and hoses
- Transmission and differential oil
- Wipers
- All fluids
- Spark plugs
- Fault reading

A simple BMW service (main dealer) was 450chf - adding 200chf for a brake fluid change - so 2 hours of work for the service + parts. And 1 hour for the brakes + parts

High quality oil will cost 30chf per litre with little effort - and is sold in 1l amounts - and you'll need between 4-8 depending on engine and cylinders.
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