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This conversation keeps coming back to Swiss interpretation. But, I would prefer Swiss people to answer this from their own perspective. I get most of my business, un intentionally from foreign people. So, it is more what I am interested as an answer.
I remember going into an optician in Bern 20 years ago, and the person who did the test had a pony tail. This would never happen in England, I thought, and I was quite bemused by the experience. In the meantime I have become Swiss and it would not bother me now (although I am not sure that the transition to Swiss is relevant here), but then again, there is much worse now to contend with: piercings, tattoos, ear loops (or what ever they are called) and what ever else the younger generation will think of doing to differentiate themselves. I guess in the ranking here, dreadlocks are pretty tame.
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

I think there's a way of making dreads look professional - just like with tattoos, you can wear long sleeves, cover things up, tied things in a toque if necessary for the right environment. As long as the rest of you is clean and professional.

PS - It also seems that women don't mind/like them (making generalizations just from thread responses here) and guys less so - interesting
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Old 15.11.2014, 10:12
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

I've got to be honest -- you'd probably lose my business. Regardless of whether I approve of your dreadlocks or not (and I must admit, I perceive them as being unclean), it also puts me in the position of having to explain to anyone who asks (my bosses / peers / guests) why I would hire someone that looks like that.

Your choices are your choices, but I don't have the energy to defend them on your behalf. I'd probably go with someone clean-cut.

As someone who is freelance, you are essentially the face of your business. If you've got a Michelin-star or two behind you, you can probably look however you want. But until then, you need to be close enough to the corporate mold to make people feel comfortable in their decision.

"No one gets fired for hiring IBM."
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

Professionals have "boxes" that are ticked or not based on how you look and behave. Its only my opinion but I think most professionals would not tick the body hygiene box if you have dreadlocks. That is the corporate mentality. There are of course exceptions but that only applies to famous/exceptionaly gifed people. The perception of people who know little about dreadlocks, myself included, is that they are dirty. And dirty and kitchen dont mix.

Dont do it.
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Old 15.11.2014, 10:23
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

Despite the fact that I can't stand long hair on myself (tried it once - never again!) I find dreadlocks quite attractive if they fit the person.
BTW: How old are you? IMHO there are very few men over ~30 who look good with long hair (or dreadlocks for that matter).

I understand that the dreadlocks would be hidden by the toque while you work, correct? In this case it would not keep me from hiring you, but that's just me.
However I am sure that it will scare away some potential clients - the big question is if you can afford that or not...

I agree with the two posters above that it will make it much more difficult to attract corporate clients.
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Then again I really dislike dreads so I am a bit shortsighted in my opinion. I feel they are for when you are young and traveling the world and are making the transient statement.... . MAny people have most certainly a different opinion.

Btw here is the new trend in the US :
http://elitedaily.com/women/man-bun-...ing-right-now/
I'm also a bit shortsighted if that's of any consolation.
For me dreadlocks and being over 30 just don't match together. There's a time when you can have them i.e. as you said - young and travelling the world, as a student.
They had nothing to do with one's professionalism, of course, it's just that they somehow send a wrong message. Either suggest uncleanliness or superficiality, it's a mixed feeling, I wouldn't know to name it exactly. (again, only a personal opinion which might be wrong and not at all representative)
If I was OP I wouldn't do it. I'm sure other many people think differently so there might be a way, who knows.
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... If you've got a Michelin-star or two behind you, you can probably look however you want. But until then, you need to be close enough to the corporate mold to make people feel comfortable in their decision.

"No one gets fired for hiring IBM."
This is very true. Only when you've established your name and/or secured the market (customers who will loyally use your service), would the dreadlocks not really matter anymore. But till then, I agree that having that look might take away certain potential customers from you.
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This is very true. Only when you've established your name and/or secured the market (customers who will loyally use your service), would the dreadlocks not really matter anymore. But till then, I agree that having that look might take away certain potential customers from you.
This too. From a certain level it will not count anymore, so maybe the dreadlocks can wait for a while?
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

As long as you have clean hair, clear skin, a muscular yet lean body, are well-dressed, highly intelligent, hard-working, reliable, talented and have a pleasing manner, there shouldn't be any problem at all.
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Despite the fact that I can't stand long hair on myself (tried it once - never again!) I find dreadlocks quite attractive if they fit the person.
BTW: How old are you? IMHO there are very few men over ~30 who look good with long hair (or dreadlocks for that matter).

I understand that the dreadlocks would be hidden by the toque while you work, correct? In this case it would not keep me from hiring you, but that's just me.
However I am sure that it will scare away some potential clients - the big question is if you can afford that or not...

I agree with the two posters above that it will make it much more difficult to attract corporate clients.
Well a few months ago I went to my hairdresser who does not like them herself, with some other people. She said however, my head shape, and kind of hair, it would probably be suitable on me. Regardless of my age. I find them neat when tied.


Plus, for also to note, my picture I use for my Lebenslauf is by no means traditional. In fact I have been told repeatedly, that picture put me above a lot of candidates because it is such a bold statement. For me it expresses who I am. Not sure I will share it on this forum because I like my anonymity. But by no means ever do I take the traditional route with cooking, presenting myself, or the food I present.


I also work in food alchemy, molecular cuisine as well. So they expect the un expected. Even still though, I do sandwiches for finger food as well. So again, does it scare potential clients off?
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As long as you have clean hair, clear skin, a muscular yet lean body, are well-dressed, highly intelligent, hard-working, reliable, talented and have a pleasing manner, there shouldn't be any problem at all.
I have been working a lot far more recently trying to get back my original body type. I lost 16 kilos as of recent. Not muscular enough, but that would add as a goal.
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

Ok, now that I know what you look like.

You know that I am not a fan of long hair on men but it works on you. I think you'll look very handsome with a bun.

Don't do dreads. It will not look clean and if one day you have enough, you won't have other option than to cut off your hair.
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Ok, now that I know what you look like.

You know that I am not a fan of long hair on men but it works on you. I think you'll look very handsome with a bun.

Don't do dreads. It will not look clean and if one day you have enough, you won't have other option than to cut off your hair.
You know, apparently you can actually comb them out later. I didn't know this myself until yesterday. I met with a friend who cut her's out and has extensions. Next wee we are going to sit down and discuss it further.


This bun thing though. Do they take them down at the end of the day or is it kind of permanently in that state?
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Next wee we are going to sit down and discuss it further.


You know your business and your customers better than anyone. It really is your call!
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You know, apparently you can actually comb them out later. I didn't know this myself until yesterday. I met with a friend who cut her's out and has extensions. Next wee we are going to sit down and discuss it further.


This bun thing though. Do they take them down at the end of the day or is it kind of permanently in that state?
It must break the hair badly though.

The bun is made with an elastic band.
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

There are lots of hair ties around which don't damage the hair, such as covered elastics that you can find in Coop, Manor etc.
I like these..

http://invisibobble.com/
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

Just get a dreadlock wig.

Put it on when you're out on the town, or smoking a bong with some chums, or on holiday in Koh Phangan (or whenever you feel that dreadlocks make you feel more like your real self)

Remove the wig when you're working.
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

The bun you would take out at the end of the day or whenever, really. There are all sorts of ways to do it from the simple hair tie, to using an old sock (just go to youtube or google it) and these special donut roll thingies.



As long as they are pulled back, I guess the dreads can look cool, like the picture posted earlier of the chef. I like the bun idea...it does seem more clean to me than dread locks.

I can't imagine brushing out dread locks is something I would want to try and do. My daughter has had some pretty nasty knots in her hair and after much effort, the scissors came out
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

Just to update this thread. I went to Cambden and was told for a whole head of hair it would cost me 250 pounds. At a recommended place in Zurich, it will cost from 800 to 1200 CHF.

I had the first of 2 appointments about 2 weeks ago regarding the different options possible, and have booked an appointment for a month from now to have them done. Not the whole head.

I have decided it is not about anyone else but me. Even if afterwards I change my mind, and even if no one likes them, it's something I want to do, and that's what is most important. If I decide I don't like them, and want them out, there is always going back to this for a few months...

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Just to update this thread. I went to Cambden and was told for a whole head of hair it would cost me 250 pounds. At a recommended place in Zurich, it will cost from 800 to 1200 CHF.

I had the first of 2 appointments about 2 weeks ago regarding the different options possible, and have booked an appointment for a month from now to have them done. Not the whole head.

I have decided it is not about anyone else but me. Even if afterwards I change my mind, and even if no one likes them, it's something I want to do, and that's what is most important. If I decide I don't like them, and want them out, there is always going back to this for a few months...

http://www.strictlyfitteds.com/sites...ew-era-mlb.jpg
CRIMINEY, that's expensive! All you really need is a couple of flea combs (Seriously), a couple of (anal-retentive) friends and a 12-pack of beer. You sit on the floor and your friends segregate your hair into sections about 3cmx3cm (plus or minus depending on your taste), rubber band your hair to keep it segmented. When it comes to doing the dread, pull the hair straight up, tamp the base of it down with the flea comb, pull the beginning of the dread up, twist clockwise, tamp down again, pull up, twist anticlockwise and tamp back down.

Took us about 5 hours or so and I had BABY fine hair. You'll need hair wax for the first few weeks to keep it neat and can get it wet (But try to avoid to). Don't use any other hair products on it.

I'll warn you, though. Your scalp will be sore as hell when you're done, but it will look awesome. I had dreads about the size of a large pencil and they maintained beautifully.
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