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Although I`m an "old lady" now, I was once young, and have no problems with "statements" - like hanging chandeliers from trees and hiring a dreadlocked chef - you sound a real original character, I must say!

But unfortunately, those with money to hire catering chefs are not usually ones who spent their youth doing wacko stuff - they were more likely to be working their butts off and pretty straight laced, and all they really know about dreadlocks is they belong on "long-haired old hippies and dope smokers".

To prove to you I don`t think like a fuddy-duddy of the "crew cut" section, I offer a photo of myself in my hey-day of ballroom dancing(!) Needless to say, the shaved head did not "fit" on a competition dance floor ....... to attain qualification standards I wore a wig to impress the judges. One simply has to "fit in" if one wants to get anywhere in life.
If I were not wanting to improve my dance qualifications, the shaved head could have been worn on the floor - and I would have been ignored.

This is a still from a music video (I omit my dance partner as he wore only body paint!)

So ... if your clientele is NOT corporate, and you are well-known enough to be able to do your own thing, go ahead and do it!
It's hard to nail down exact clientele. I am always doing parties where they are requesting either something simple but homemade/flavorful, or real creative. Atleast I see you are trying to be sincere. I have been considering taking some time off and trying something new recently.
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Old 03.02.2015, 15:38
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CRIMINEY, that's expensive! All you really need is a couple of flea combs (Seriously), a couple of (anal-retentive) friends and a 12-pack of beer. You sit on the floor and your friends segregate your hair into sections about 3cmx3cm (plus or minus depending on your taste), rubber band your hair to keep it segmented. When it comes to doing the dread, pull the hair straight up, tamp the base of it down with the flea comb, pull the beginning of the dread up, twist clockwise, tamp down again, pull up, twist anticlockwise and tamp back down.

Took us about 5 hours or so and I had BABY fine hair. You'll need hair wax for the first few weeks to keep it neat and can get it wet (But try to avoid to). Don't use any other hair products on it.

I'll warn you, though. Your scalp will be sore as hell when you're done, but it will look awesome. I had dreads about the size of a large pencil and they maintained beautifully.
I suggest we do an EF event out of it. I'm in!
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Old 03.02.2015, 16:02
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Dreads are indeed a "statement," though, as Smoky indicated, and whatever "statement" they make to potential clients will be out of your control.
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What would that be?
I really don't know; I only know what that statement would say to me personally. Thus the lack of control I mentioned.

The "statement" would likely be different for each person. As the responses to this thread indicate, some would assume a lack of hygiene of the person wearing the dreads and would immediately not consider hiring him, while some would assume a progressive mindset of the wearer and might immediately identify with him and hire him.

The possibilities for the implicit "statement" of the dreadlocked person would most likely lie on a wider spectrum, though, than the array of assumptions that would be made about the life/activities/hygiene/recreational smoking habits, etc. of someone with a more conservative cut.
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Old 03.02.2015, 17:05
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I really don't know; I only know what that statement would say to me personally. Thus the lack of control I mentioned.

The "statement" would likely be different for each person. As the responses to this thread indicate, some would assume a lack of hygiene of the person wearing the dreads and would immediately not consider hiring him, while some would assume a progressive mindset of the wearer and might immediately identify with him and hire him.

The possibilities for the implicit "statement" of the dreadlocked person would most likely lie on a wider spectrum, though, than the array of assumptions that would be made about the life/activities/hygiene/recreational smoking habits, etc. of someone with a more conservative cut.
For me personally it's just a hairstyle. I have a black (hope this word is not offensive) girlfriend who has braids but it fits her, it makes her cute.
However, dreadlocks don't look clean. And for a cook is essential. I know it's a prejudice, but this is how they look. They are all great for a musician, artist, globe-trotter, volunteer in Africa...in short: bohemian style (OK, except the volunteer in Africa).
I wouldn't do it if I was OP.
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Old 03.02.2015, 17:43
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Although I`m an "old lady" now, I was once young, and have no problems with "statements" - like hanging chandeliers from trees and hiring a dreadlocked chef - you sound a real original character, I must say!

But unfortunately, those with money to hire catering chefs are not usually ones who spent their youth doing wacko stuff - they were more likely to be working their butts off and pretty straight laced, and all they really know about dreadlocks is they belong on "long-haired old hippies and dope smokers".

To prove to you I don`t think like a fuddy-duddy of the "crew cut" section, I offer a photo of myself in my hey-day of ballroom dancing(!) Needless to say, the shaved head did not "fit" on a competition dance floor ....... to attain qualification standards I wore a wig to impress the judges. One simply has to "fit in" if one wants to get anywhere in life.
If I were not wanting to improve my dance qualifications, the shaved head could have been worn on the floor - and I would have been ignored.

This is a still from a music video (I omit my dance partner as he wore only body paint!)

So ... if your clientele is NOT corporate, and you are well-known enough to be able to do your own thing, go ahead and do it!
You look beautiful Smoky!
I don't understand how you could have been ignored looking like that!
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Old 03.02.2015, 19:14
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a) what industry are you in?
b) are you customer facing or are you talking about internal corporate events like a team dinner?
a. Economic/business restructuring consulting but I deal with a variety of folks from lawyers, to math/finance, to tax advisors, accountants and auditors.

b. I am customer facing, but it can also apply to internal events. For full disclosure, I am not the one planning any event (external or internal), but at our latest global event last year we had a gal and a dude in circus-like attire hanging off from the ceiling upside down serving champagne to firm and client personnel.* I stand by my statement that dreads are not the worst I've seen.**

*Not sure how - whoever planned this - was able to pull that one off...
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Old 04.02.2015, 03:30
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a. Economic/business restructuring consulting but I deal with a variety of folks from lawyers, to math/finance, to tax advisors, accountants and auditors.

b. I am customer facing, but it can also apply to internal events. For full disclosure, I am not the one planning any event (external or internal), but at our latest global event last year we had a gal and a dude in circus-like attire hanging off from the ceiling upside down serving champagne to firm and client personnel.* I stand by my statement that dreads are not the worst I've seen.**

*Not sure how - whoever planned this - was able to pull that one off...
**Those bean counters, I tell ya...
Well, I have worked for a major MNC where a senior manager once had an event in front of hundreds of employees wearing a superman costume carrying a post package ("because that's how fast data packages travel with the new infrastructure we sell")*. Just because there are people taking more drugs and have worse ideas...

* I wonder if HR ever found out who put a recording of it on youtube...
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You look beautiful Smoky!
I don't understand how you could have been ignored looking like that!
Thank you for the compliment hannah`sauntie!

The point I was trying to get across is that depending on what field one wants to enter one has to "fit in", especially if it`s dependent on other`s opinions of oneself. In those days, coifed hair-do`s were the accepted style, to show "grooming" - to judges who not only looked at footwork, body movement etc. It all added up to getting ahead. A shaved head would have shocked the judges (in those days) (But is acceptable in todays world, I see).

In "off-duty" mode my shaved head was accepted - hence work to do wacko scenes/shows such as in photo.

Unfortunately - in the food/catering industry - giving an appearance of grooming, I think, is still high on the list.

Now ... if Cornflower (excuse me I forget his actual name, and will lose my reply if I go back to check) could just use a wig of dreadlocks for his off-the-wall clients, and have a groomed hairstyle for the rest of the money-bag clients .........? Then he`d cash in both sides of the economy?

Jaaaaa.... I know ... a wig is not what he wants! He wants his dreadlocks!
And he`ll earn less money. Maybe he is not concerned with money?
In which case he can be The Dreadlock Chef!

Dreadlocks are not professional in the catering business - generally.

And now I`m finished with this thread. It`s lingering on and on like a "smoking" thread!
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Old 13.08.2015, 23:20
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

As I was looking thru my junk...I got the dreds 2 months ago. Some folks on this forum have met me since. Here is the updates...
Remember some past comments I have made about being stopped by the police? 19 times in February by the way. Since, once. Now I can imagine if it was in the reverse I could start a whole thread about it. And everyone could slam on the stereotyping. But since, it's been not only a decision I am happy with but also something that has affected me professionally in a positive way, or atleast what I have been exposed to.
So what I have I been exposed to? Is life on this forum a bit of a bubble? I ask feedback and it is overwhelmingly negative, and going out in the Swiss public and it has been rewarding? Take what is on here without bias...the reality of the Swiss people is first hand different.

Also I would like to add I actually have had more work then I did before. Pre Dred era.
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Is life on this forum a bit of a bubble?
Is that a real question?

EF is its own unique ecosystem. Fun for talking bollocks, previously pretty good for meeting interesting people, but that's all.

You didn't really take anything written in this thread seriously, did you?
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Old 14.08.2015, 00:02
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Is that a real question?

EF is its own unique ecosystem. Fun for talking bollocks, previously pretty good for meeting interesting people, but that's all.

You didn't really take anything written in this thread seriously, did you?
You mean did o take anyone serious about their response? Sure I did.
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You mean did o take anyone serious about their response? Sure I did.
Hey, you did it no matter what people told you. It takes guts that I am not sure I have.
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As I was looking thru my junk...I got the dreds 2 months ago. Some folks on this forum have met me since. Here is the updates...
Remember some past comments I have made about being stopped by the police? 19 times in February by the way. Since, once. Now I can imagine if it was in the reverse I could start a whole thread about it. And everyone could slam on the stereotyping. But since, it's been not only a decision I am happy with but also something that has affected me professionally in a positive way, or atleast what I have been exposed to.
So what I have I been exposed to? Is life on this forum a bit of a bubble? I ask feedback and it is overwhelmingly negative, and going out in the Swiss public and it has been rewarding? Take what is on here without bias...the reality of the Swiss people is first hand different.

Also I would like to add I actually have had more work then I did before. Pre Dred era.
Dreads look cool actually, don't grow a long bushy (black) beard though... trust me
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Re: Dreadlocks and Professionalism

I have a good musician friend who has dreads on his left side, down to his waist, and very short hair on the other- for a musician, it looks fantastic, especially as his is VERY good looking and has the most amazing smile

Daniel Waples Hang in Balance

on u-tube or FB

he has told me of his plans to get rid of his dreadlocks fairly soon, in London- in a very dramatic way for a video - will be fun - won't say more.

Not sure it would be right in a kitchen though- but he does roll them up in a bun when required and it looks very neat.
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Hey, you did it no matter what people told you. It takes guts that I am not sure I have.
Well you have seen them...what do you think? Neat or dirty looking?
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Although I didn't see it, I'm gonna say.. I told you so
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So what I have I been exposed to? Is life on this forum a bit of a bubble? I ask feedback and it is overwhelmingly negative, and going out in the Swiss public and it has been rewarding? Take what is on here without bias...the reality of the Swiss people is first hand different..
I'm glad you discovered this simple truth a bit late in my opinion, but still better than never.

Anyway, good for you.
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I'm glad your living your dream and it's worked for you.
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As I was looking thru my junk...I got the dreds 2 months ago. Some folks on this forum have met me since. Here is the updates...
Remember some past comments I have made about being stopped by the police? 19 times in February by the way. Since, once. Now I can imagine if it was in the reverse I could start a whole thread about it. And everyone could slam on the stereotyping. But since, it's been not only a decision I am happy with but also something that has affected me professionally in a positive way, or atleast what I have been exposed to.
So what I have I been exposed to? Is life on this forum a bit of a bubble? I ask feedback and it is overwhelmingly negative, and going out in the Swiss public and it has been rewarding? Take what is on here without bias...the reality of the Swiss people is first hand different.

Also I would like to add I actually have had more work then I did before. Pre Dred era.
Maybe you're better looking with dreads.

By the way, life in any confined social circle is a bubble.
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