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Re: Restaurant etiquette when serving Paella dish?

I've often seen large pans of paella prepared for a full service of multiple parties, and I guess that if you're the first in the restaurant you might get to take all the nice pictures of it. But if that's the case, I would expect it to be centrally displayed and served, not left by your table.

However, I wouldn't necessarily expect it to be kept in the kitchen -- it's one of those dishes that is often displayed publically.

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Old 10.02.2015, 15:37
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Given that she quoted the prices in euros I'd hazard a guess at a pseudo German wannabe myself.
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I can't remember the price I last payed there but I think they were about a Euro a piece, so they're not exactly dirt cheap even there.
Shrimp vary in size, type and quality as any other animal. Some of the best (as in tasty) are from the close atlantic coast - from Galizia and north of Portugal - and they are relatively cheap - but they are very small and difficult to peal.



For bigger ones (which you need for grilled dishes) you go closer to the African coast.



The price varies a lot, of course, depending on availability, size, and quality. Usually the bigger ones end up having to be frozen because you have to fish them far away, so they might end up being at a similar price as the smaller ones (frozen stuff is usually cheaper than fresh one).

Though I am quite aware Portugal is not the same as Spain, prices on sea food are more or less the same. You can have a look at the prices here (be aware these are not high end shops, but the regular supermarkets available to the normal people):



Prices in Euros/kilo. The numbers (30/40 or 60/80) is an indication on how many shrimps you get per kilo.

Hope this helps. Also hope it helps people understand why I feast on sea food and fish every time I go visit my parents...

Also, as a little side note, I used to catch shrimp for the family when I was a little kid. They are just there on the beach, begging to be eaten with little puppy-shrimpy-eyes. It doesn't get any fresher than that
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No?

They are quite common in Italy and France, I love them!

(welks, periwinkles, etc.)

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Well I grew up in snail country- and hated them. But then it always made me laugh when my English students would say the French are disgusting, because they eat snail- and I replied that the Brits do too, sea snail- whelks, periwinkles and the like, as said above. All disgusting to me, irrespective on 'nationality'
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Well I grew up in snail country- and hated them. But then it always made me laugh when my English students would say the French are disgusting, because they eat snail- and I replied that the Brits do too, sea snail- whelks, periwinkles and the like, as said above. All disgusting to me, irrespective on 'nationality'
I grew up conditioned to think snails were disgusting until I actually tried some.
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I grew up conditioned to think snails were disgusting until I actually tried some.

A snail is something I`d rather not eat! Also raw oysters! But some people love them - so we all got different tastes hey?


My Dad used to grill beatles to eat when out camping and said they tasted very good ... crunchy and juicy inside (what we called Tok-Tokkie`s, the Swiss call "June Beatles"). And I hear that flying ants grilled are also very crunchy tasty. But I`d not even try them.


So I learned something here - that "sea snails" are those other sea creatures, not a "normal" snail!
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I've often seen large pans of paella prepared for a full service of multiple parties, and I guess that if you're the first in the restaurant you might get to take all the nice pictures of it. But if that's the case, I would expect it to be centrally displayed and served, not left by your table.

However, I wouldn't necessarily expect it to be kept in the kitchen -- it's one of those dishes that is often displayed publically.


Now that looks like what I expected it to look like! With LOTS of actual seafood!
The dish was about the same size, just not so full, and not kept on any sort of hot-plate. Amount was about what one would expect for 10 people.


We were in a separate sort-of alcove because of table size, and the dish was placed there - covered with tinfoil (to keep it warm I guess).


Certainly it looked like it was for OUR table!
Stupid owner/chef - why did he not dish up and then remove the flipping pan/pot/wok? If we were not meant to eat from it? The mean-ness of the serving of seafood is what got at me.
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After serving the wok was still half (exactly half) full. So some guests got up to go help themselves to the shrimps/prawns and mussels on top of the rice........
Where did he leave the wok after serving?
as you said Guest got up.

Though I do agree with you, seems very odd to leave out in the open without cover, particularly in a smoking restaurant.

As you quoted prices in Euro was this outside Switzerland?

I do not know about fish from Spain, but do know that fresh fish is flown in from Asia a few times a week.

I remember once we got some fresh fish in Chur, in a bordello like area. I sat in the car while my OH popped into this like wooden hut (slight exaggeration) as all the parking spaces had number plates & would have moved it if the owner for the parking space turned up.

I do not like frozen prawns, as they taste a bit like disenfectant, probably something to do with the water they are frozen in. One of the best places I have had fresh prawns was in Sydney, Australia. Had them once cooked in I am not sure what light covering in Greece where one did not peal them, but ate them whole with the shells & feet and they were lovely & crispy. Sadly that owner died, so not able to get the recipe.
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I grew up conditioned to think snails were disgusting until I actually tried some.
What, and then you knew they were disgusting?
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What, and then you knew they were disgusting?
They're an acceptable byproduct of lovely melted garlic butter and bread.
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A snail is something I`d rather not eat! Also raw oysters! But some people love them - so we all got different tastes hey?


My Dad used to grill beatles to eat when out camping and said they tasted very good ... crunchy and juicy inside (what we called Tok-Tokkie`s, the Swiss call "June Beatles"). And I hear that flying ants grilled are also very crunchy tasty. But I`d not even try them.


So I learned something here - that "sea snails" are those other sea creatures, not a "normal" snail!


"Grilled beatles" and "crunchy flying ants" !!! Is ur dad an ex marine/SEAL/special agent??? I heard that these people are trained to eat such things for survival.... and after retiring they retain the tastes

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"Grilled beatles" and "crunchy flying ants" !!! Is ur dad an ex marine/SEAL/special agent??? I heard that these people are trained to eat such things for survival.... and after retiring they retain the tastes
Just a farm boy growing up during the Great Depression - I guess things like that were some sort of delicacy then. ( No marshmallows or chops to grill - while trekking with ox wagon for 2 weeks to get to a town to buy mother`s staples) (or maybe the real food just ran out en route).
But he would still grill bugs now and again - just to see the expression on his kids faces!
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They're an acceptable byproduct of lovely melted garlic butter and bread.

Ah ha! So it`s not the actual snail one tastes - it`s disguised under garlic and butter? Would you still eat a snail without the garlic and butter?... just slurp it out of its shell? Raw?
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Ah ha! So it`s not the actual snail one tastes - it`s disguised under garlic and butter? Would you still eat a snail without the garlic and butter?... just slurp it out of its shell? Raw?
One of my Swiss cookbooks in fact has a recipe for mock snails (cubed pork bits in herb-garlic butter), offered with the justification that "we all know that one only eats those [real snails] for the garlic butter anyway".
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Ah ha! So it`s not the actual snail one tastes - it`s disguised under garlic and butter? Would you still eat a snail without the garlic and butter?... just slurp it out of its shell? Raw?
As is so often the case, and forgotten when you go to that posh restaurant to eat local food, be it bouillabaisse (fish soup), or raclette, fondue, tartiflette in the French or Swiss mountains, or whelks and samphire in the UK- or indeed snails in Burgundy- these foods are based on free or very cheap available foods in the area. Snails are abundant in the Jura- and poor people 'picked' them and boiled them- as they could not afford meat- and lots of garlic and herbs were used to disguise the fact they are tasteless and have the texture of gum boots.

During the first world war, my dad and his friends were all give tne job to go and gather snails in the countryside. When I was young here in the 50s- we used to get our pcket money that way- take the 4 litre milk churn, with the lid- and go a-picking 'les escargots' and sell them to the restaurants. Put me off for life!

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Ah ha! So it`s not the actual snail one tastes - it`s disguised under garlic and butter? Would you still eat a snail without the garlic and butter?... just slurp it out of its shell? Raw?
Sea snails I eat cooked, but usually with no sauce (and cold).

Of course, unlike land snails, they are mollusks, and like all mollusks, have great taste!

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Of course, unlike land snails, they are mollusks, and like all mollusks, have great taste!
Taste or no taste, land snails are mollusks too.
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Ah ha! So it`s not the actual snail one tastes - it`s disguised under garlic and butter? Would you still eat a snail without the garlic and butter?... just slurp it out of its shell? Raw?
Nope. You boil them. Alive. Then you get a small bowl, in which you mix olive oil and white vinegar. You get the snails out of their shells using a toothpick, you swirl them into the oil and vinegar and eat them.

Butter and garlic sauces are a waste of good snails
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Was it a proper, authentic Spanish restaurant, or a pseudo Swiss wannabe?

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