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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

I love my Kuhn Rikon nonstick pan - bought it about 6 years ago and it looks just like new. I use soft sponges to wash it and only plastic cooking utensils to cook with it. Never ever metal.
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

Le Creuset. We've two cast iron ones that we've had for more than 10 years.
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Old 16.04.2015, 10:25
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

I had a good experience with Tefal (including grill pan) and Ikea stainless steel pan (365+), which I can't say it's non-sticky, but at least it could be cleaned beautifully. It looks like new after 5 years. (my oldest pan)
I never put my Tefal pans in the dishwasher, I just wash the interior with hot water and wipe it with a paper towel. I might use detergent for the bottom, when it's greasy.
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Old 16.04.2015, 13:27
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

I'm not sure why it doesn't work with you, but my pans are from WMF, and a few others are from Silit. They still work well after 5 years.
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I'm not sure why it doesn't work with you, but my pans are from WMF, and a few others are from Silit. They still work well after 5 years.
It got sticky after just a year something, also it started smelling very strong of either the food or cleaner after we hand washed it. Sometimes so strong that if I fry an egg with it the egg smell/taste like the cleanser...! It happened to all my non sticky pans from ikea or thomas... They all started sticky then strong smell of either food or cleanser!
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It got sticky after just a year something, also it started smelling very strong of either the food or cleaner after we hand washed it. Sometimes so strong that if I fry an egg with it the egg smell/taste like the cleanser...! It happened to all my non sticky pans from ikea or thomas... They all started sticky then strong smell of either food or cleanser!
What do you wash them with (cleanser, material of sponge/rag)?

If the cleaning utensil scratches the pan's surface (even microscopic scratches which you can't see) it is likely that residues of food/cleanser start sticking to the pan and you'd have to do a very thorough job of cleaning/soaking to get rid of it.

I only use the softest sponges I can find - meaning no scratchy sponges (the yellow ones with dark green sides are too scratchy!), no brushes, also no lurex cleaning sponges with steel in them - and put soapy warm water in the pan immediately after cooking if immediate washing isn't possible.
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

I never thought I would say this, but I found the IKEA stainless steel pans the best I have ever used. In the states I had All-Clad and I like the IKEA stuff even more than that. They aren't even nonstick.
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Old 19.04.2015, 16:07
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and i do heat up with no.6 (higest heat level) but cook with 2 to 4 only, not sure if the heat was too hight!
I saw in your profile that you are from HK... well: I have had the same discussion with my (Chinese) wife for ten years: Non-stick pans are NOT build for the highest heat level. No, not even to heat up the oil. It actually says so in the manual or sticker that comes with it. Result if you do heat them up too high? The non stick stuff wears out within two years... no matter how expensive they were.

I am currently using a medium priced German brand called Berndes and love their wood handle line: http://www.berndes.com/en/shop/specials_en/bonanza_en/
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Old 19.04.2015, 16:23
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. . . Non-stick pans are NOT build for the highest heat level. . .
These can actually be dangerous and that is part of the reason that we use an old cast iron skillet instead of a 'non-stick' frying pan.
There are even warnings against using non-stick cook ware if there are caged birds in the vicinity, but it is the effect on humans which should cause the most concern:
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http://www.ewg.org/research/healthy-...dangers-teflon
http://www.naturalhealth365.com/scie...ws/teflon.html
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These can actually be dangerous and that is part of the reason that we use an old cast iron skillet instead of a 'non-stick' frying pan.
There are even warnings against using non-stick cook ware if there are caged birds in the vicinity, but it is the effect on humans which should cause the most concern:
For example:
http://www.ewg.org/research/healthy-...dangers-teflon
http://www.naturalhealth365.com/scie...ws/teflon.html
I cook a hell of a lot (for a single bloke) and I have never had a problem with my non-stick pans degrading even after 2 years...

Also, most if not all major brands of the last few years are using non-toxic, PFOA-free coating for their frying pans, so that danger is now removed.
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

I also tried lots of different brands, some cheaper from Manor, WMF, Silit, etc. They did not last long. Sillit cast iron gut sticky after a while and got warn off:S:S Telfon was fine, but I feel uncomfortable using it because of health concerns. In the end I decided for stainless steal for frying and got WMF from coop trophy for eggs. They work well so far.

I am very harsh to my stainless steal one, but I can use even wire, it is stainless steal. The WMF one gets cleaned very easily so far. Going slightly over it with sponge is enough. I don't use anything harsh at all on it.

for reference: i used the pan for eggs on almost a daily basis.

p.s. i saw in coop city some stone pans by Sillit. Wander if they are any good...
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I cook a hell of a lot (for a single bloke) and I have never had a problem with my non-stick pans degrading even after 2 years...

Also, most if not all major brands of the last few years are using non-toxic, PFOA-free coating for their frying pans, so that danger is now removed.
Same here, mine really don't wear out much if at all... no chipping or anything. And what are people cooking at 250C or whatever anyway? Frying is 190 max and that's fine for non-stick.
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Old 19.04.2015, 21:22
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Same here, mine really don't wear out much if at all... no chipping or anything. And what are people cooking at 250C or whatever anyway? Frying is 190 max and that's fine for non-stick.
Exactly, the only cuisine I can imagine cooking that requires super hot pre-heated temperatures is maybe Chinese or similar in a steel wok and that would usually require a gas flame... with a normal pot or frying pan on my electric hobs I have simply never encountered a situation where I would need to go anywhere near that level of heat.
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

After several brands of non-stick pans failing us I decided to spend slightly more and got a Swiss Diamond. So far it's been great. Cerafit didn't last two months - apparently using ground pepper and or coarse salt was too much for it. I still want a Le Creuset or another brand carbon steel pan for getting a good crust on those steaks.
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Le Creuset. We've two cast iron ones that we've had for more than 10 years.
Absolutely positively. Some great cast iron stuff from Copco of Denmark too. They make great cast iron woks.
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And what are people cooking at 250C or whatever anyway? Frying is 190 max and that's fine for non-stick.
Even 250C is not a problem unless you cannot live without a bird cage cum birds right above your stove. Miners took canaries with them because, with their super-fast little metabolism, they are much more sensitive to gases than humans.

Besides that, at 250C pretty much any vegetable oil, let alone butter, will smoke like mad and make the neighbors call the fire department.

One of the websites mentioned by me.anon warns against putting a non-stick pan in an oven hotter than 500F (260C). You really shouldn't do that. The panhandle might melt.

Whenever I want to bring a non-stick frying pan to red-glow heat just because I like that color, I move the cage of my parakeets from the kitchen exhaust hood to the bathroom. Problem solved.
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what are people cooking at 250C or whatever anyway?
Pizza.

"Pizza shops cook pizzas at temperatures between 700 and 800 degrees"

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Pizza.

"Pizza shops cook pizzas at temperatures between 700 and 800 degrees"

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Yes, easily re-creatable inside the average home.
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Pizza.

"Pizza shops cook pizzas at temperatures between 700 and 800 degrees"

Tom
This does sound very hot, but it somehow reminds me of a report I heard during an induction course for new recruits to a local government in the south west of England, many years ago now. A short part of the induction course was given by a health and safety officer, and he managed to work himself up into a rage, recounting an incident where some young hooligan, employed in a council operated crematorium, abused the oven there to heat up his lunch. The young man put a Cornish pasty onto sort of long handled spade, and reached it into the bowels of oven, through an inspection hole. These antics somehow caused a significant explosion.
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Yes, easily re-creatable inside the average home.
Indeed. I have modified my gas grill for such heat.

700F is only 370C.

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