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Pizza.

"Pizza shops cook pizzas at temperatures between 700 and 800 degrees"

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Which presumably doesn't happen in a frying or average non-stick pan, since that's oven cooked... Not talking about US pan pizza here right?
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Indeed. I have modified my gas grill for such heat.

700F is only 370C.

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So modifying your oven/grill is something that the average person would do? All conventional home ovens I have seen max out at around 260c, so to modify it you are going to be voiding the warranty and possibly be creating a risk of fire or fault.

Basically Tom, stop talking absolute **** in order to score internet points. It's lamer than a three-legged dog with Alzheimers.

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Which presumably doesn't happen in a frying or average non-stick pan, since that's oven cooked... Not talking about US pan pizza here right?
I was also going to mention this, but then realized that basic contextual common sense wasn't really (and rarely does) factoring to his arguments.
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Old 20.04.2015, 00:55
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

My Swiss standard oven, un-modified, goes to 300C.

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Old 20.04.2015, 12:00
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I also tried lots of different brands, some cheaper from Manor, WMF, Silit, etc. They did not last long. Sillit cast iron gut sticky after a while and got warn off:S:S Telfon was fine, but I feel uncomfortable using it because of health concerns. In the end I decided for stainless steal for frying and got WMF from coop trophy for eggs. They work well so far.

I am very harsh to my stainless steal one, but I can use even wire, it is stainless steal. The WMF one gets cleaned very easily so far. Going slightly over it with sponge is enough. I don't use anything harsh at all on it.

for reference: i used the pan for eggs on almost a daily basis.

p.s. i saw in coop city some stone pans by Sillit. Wander if they are any good...
Yes, agree on that: stainless steel rules! But I rarely fry something, as a lot of my cooked food is either cooked into the oven (meat, vegetables), steamed (I've got a cheap stainless steel spaghetti double pot from Lidl and it works just fine, although I have a proper electric steamer too) or boiled ( e.g. soups).
I'm personally curious about cooper pans/pots because they look so nice. (but would they be nice for long? I hate throwing money out of the window)
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Old 20.04.2015, 12:27
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

I guess it depends on the hob, but it can get quite hot.

I bought a new pan once and actually saw the non-stick layer burn-off the pan when I left it too long. (threw that one away immediately)

An alternative to coated pan is to use a stainless steel pan and season it. Then it will also be non-stick and you don't have the chemical issues or problems using it with high heat.
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Old 20.04.2015, 12:44
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I'm personally curious about cooper pans/pots because they look so nice. (but would they be nice for long? I hate throwing money out of the window)
They don't work on induction hobs so if you ever changed to one of these then it would be money down the drain.

And if it's not looks but cooking performance that you are after then a change to induction from halogen or electric rings will be vastly superior than a change to copper pans.
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They don't work on induction hobs so if you ever changed to one of these then it would be money down the drain.

And if it's not looks but cooking performance that you are after then a change to induction from halogen or electric rings will be vastly superior than a change to copper pans.
I'll be honest: it's the looks that I'm after (as I'm already a good cook). They're enchanting and would warm up our kitchen. But if they're not proper for the hob we have, I'll do without them. Money saved.
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

Providing they have a steel base they'll work on induction.

Take a magnet with you when you go to buy......
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Providing they have a steel base they'll work on induction.

Take a magnet with you when you go to buy......
Some pans work much, much better than others.

i.e they heat up much quicker on the same heat setting as others.

A magnet is good if you can actually measure the magnetic strength and compare it other saucepans.
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What do you wash them with (cleanser, material of sponge/rag)?

If the cleaning utensil scratches the pan's surface (even microscopic scratches which you can't see) it is likely that residues of food/cleanser start sticking to the pan and you'd have to do a very thorough job of cleaning/soaking to get rid of it.

I only use the softest sponges I can find - meaning no scratchy sponges (the yellow ones with dark green sides are too scratchy!), no brushes, also no lurex cleaning sponges with steel in them - and put soapy warm water in the pan immediately after cooking if immediate washing isn't possible.
I use the speical sponges that is designed to clean non sticky pans.. it supposed wont harm them at all...!
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I saw in your profile that you are from HK... well: I have had the same discussion with my (Chinese) wife for ten years: Non-stick pans are NOT build for the highest heat level. No, not even to heat up the oil. It actually says so in the manual or sticker that comes with it. Result if you do heat them up too high? The non stick stuff wears out within two years... no matter how expensive they were.

I am currently using a medium priced German brand called Berndes and love their wood handle line: http://www.berndes.com/en/shop/specials_en/bonanza_en/
interesting, i do use level 6 (the highest) to heat up the pan then change to 2-4 to cook, now i got this new green pan and i cant return..lost the receipt! so i will try this, max. level 3 to cook or even to heat up, never use metal to cook with and only hand wash with a sponge n very little cleanser, will see how it goes!
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Exactly, the only cuisine I can imagine cooking that requires super hot pre-heated temperatures is maybe Chinese or similar in a steel wok and that would usually require a gas flame... with a normal pot or frying pan on my electric hobs I have simply never encountered a situation where I would need to go anywhere near that level of heat.
i think its because i dont have the patient to wait for an egg to be cooked...back home we use "fire"...with gas..so egg can be done instantly...in here i always heat up my pan to max. (level 6) and still need to wait for a min at least for it to be hot enough and then put on an egg...i tried using level 3 to fry an egg it took me like 5 mins!!! so waste of energy and time
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After several brands of non-stick pans failing us I decided to spend slightly more and got a Swiss Diamond. So far it's been great. Cerafit didn't last two months - apparently using ground pepper and or coarse salt was too much for it. I still want a Le Creuset or another brand carbon steel pan for getting a good crust on those steaks.
I didnt know using ground pepper and coarse salt will harm the pans!!! but they taste so MUCH better with the food
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i think its because i dont have the patient to wait for an egg to be cooked...back home we use "fire"...with gas..so egg can be done instantly...in here i always heat up my pan to max. (level 6) and still need to wait for a min at least for it to be hot enough and then put on an egg...i tried using level 3 to fry an egg it took me like 5 mins!!! so waste of energy and time
As far as I remember fire is no better when it comes to protecting your kitchenware. You have to apply the same rule - start slower and do not use the maximum power when frying something. But it's somehow better for cooking in other aspects, no doubt - with the greatest advantage of being able to quickly make a good Turkish coffee, of course.
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Re: Recommendations wanted for frying pans!

Tryout these which will last long. No added chemicals like non stick.

Lodge Casted iron pan

http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-L10SK3-P.../dp/B00006JSUB
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I didnt know using ground pepper and coarse salt will harm the pans!!! but they taste so MUCH better with the food
Neither did I. It's something I've never experienced before. The result was that the white cerafit surface started to discolor in and around the scratches, accumulating more grime until everything kept sticking. Worst pan we've ever had. It was a gift from some relatives who bought it from a home shopping channel. Maybe that tells a lot about the quality or lack thereof.

We have an induction hob which is brilliant but during the first 6 months we noticed that you have to be careful with non-stick cookware... The Swiss Diamond works well with induction - hardly any preheat time is required and you can throw in the bacon rather quickly.
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Tryout these which will last long. No added chemicals like non stick.

Lodge Casted iron pan

http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-L10SK3-P.../dp/B00006JSUB
Yep, but she has to season them before use. This is excellent for cooking on gas, hopefully is equally good for an induction hob.
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Some pans work much, much better than others.

i.e they heat up much quicker on the same heat setting as others.

A magnet is good if you can actually measure the magnetic strength and compare it other saucepans.
Tom, Steel pans work on induction.

Full stop, new page
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Tom, Steel pans work on induction.

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He didn't say they didn't work did he?

He said that some work better than others which is true but very hard to determine until you've actually used them. A simple magnet test does not provide that information.
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He didn't say they didn't work did he?

He said that some work better than others which is true but very hard to determine until you've actually used them. A simple magnet test does not provide that information.
Induction is quick and effective to use, whatever, lets not start splitting hairs.....
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