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Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

Anyone experience with putting up curtains?

We finally got to buying a few sets of curtains for our apartment. We got some of these 'Gleiter' to hang the curtains in the rails that were already mounted in the ceiling of the apartment. For some reason the curtains don't move easily at all. We tried with a smaller size of runners, but still the same problem.
I think I need those curtain runners with a little wheel, but so far in the shops I have only seen the sliding ones. I googled a bit and can find them in many German places and websites, but delivery costs on those sites are of several times the price of a package of runners.

Does anyone know whether some shop in Switzerland sells these runners? Or is there some trick to get them to slide more easily?
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Old 07.05.2015, 23:45
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Re: Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

Look closely at the white plastic rails in the ceiling boards. Many times they have unwanted paint on them, and this stops the runner sliding easily. You might need to scrape the paint off.

You also might be mounting the "Gleiter" incorrectly. Usually they slide easily, with a part above the rail and a part below the rail. Maybe go to a good shop and look carefully at how they are mounted?
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Does anyone know whether some shop in Switzerland sells these runners?
You could try Manor.
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Old 08.05.2015, 00:05
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Does anyone know whether some shop in Switzerland sells these runners? Or is there some trick to get them to slide more easily?
I'm not sure whether they'll have the ones you want but Manor in Zurich has a big selection of curtain bits.

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Anyone experience with putting up curtains?

We finally got to buying a few sets of curtains for our apartment. We got some of these 'Gleiter' to hang the curtains in the rails that were already mounted in the ceiling of the apartment. For some reason the curtains don't move easily at all. We tried with a smaller size of runners, but still the same problem.
I think I need those curtain runners with a little wheel, but so far in the shops I have only seen the sliding ones. I googled a bit and can find them in many German places and websites, but delivery costs on those sites are of several times the price of a package of runners.

Does anyone know whether some shop in Switzerland sells these runners? Or is there some trick to get them to slide more easily?
It seems you did what would usually be necessary. Using smaller sized runners may well end up with them dropping out of the hanging rails. You may need some kind of greasing, silicone perhaps.

I would talk to the shop that sold you the runners, after all they don't do the trick so you would want to return them (and, perhaps, also get some kind of payback if you paid to have the runners sewed to the fabric).
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It seems you did what would usually be necessary. Using smaller sized runners may well end up with them dropping out of the hanging rails. You may need some kind of greasing, silicone perhaps.

I would talk to the shop that sold you the runners, after all they don't do the trick so you would want to return them (and, perhaps, also get some kind of payback if you paid to have the runners sewed to the fabric).
Plus one for silicone.... you can buy a spray in most DIY shops.
But do clean the track first as any dust present will just make a gunky mess if you spray silicone onto it.
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Re: Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

Thanks for the tips.

The apartment is new and the rails was put up by the builders/decorators and is embedded in the ceiling. That makes it a little difficult to judge the exact size of the rails. They seem at least clean and if I go through it with a single runner it goes quiet smooth. But a curtain with several runners is difficult to move.

In the Netherlands, where I am from, the runner with wheels seems to be the standard and also on German websites I find them everywhere. I am just surprised that I did not find them anywhere here.

Time to try Manor or get some silicon spray.
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Re: Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

In Switzerland, there were only wheeled runners way into the late 1950s. Then they got gradually replaced with the rigid ones because those ran much smoother and didn't make the noise that woke us up every morning of our childhood.

I just trashed several hundred wheeled curtain runners a few months ago.
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Re: Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

That's an interesting story and may explain why I can't find the ones with wheels.
Just need to find out why the rigid ones are not smooth in my case...
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Re: Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

Cleaning the rails did indeed do the trick! I got so stuck with the idea that only wheels would work, I could not believe the rigid guys would do a good job.

Thanks for the advice.
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Cleaning the rails did indeed do the trick! I got so stuck with the idea that only wheels would work, I could not believe the rigid guys would do a good job.

Thanks for the advice.


Personally I have found that even after cleaning the tracks the hooks with the gliders which are horizontal (längsöse) work better. I found something to explain this.


(sorry only in German but the pictures are quite detailed)
http://www.hinno.ch/pdf_overview/Hinno_U_7_D.pdf
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Re: Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

I thought I'd tag on to this thread.

We've been in our place for over six years and we still haven't put any curtains up in any rooms.

The metallic shutters on the outside make the rooms a bit bleak - especially in winter.
Unfortunately, we didn't get any curtain rails put up when we got the place so I need to do that.

Do people think wall or ceiling mounted rails are better? And if so, what sort?

I'm a bit loath to put ceiling ones in as I can imaging drilling into the concrete ceiling will bring down huge chunks of plastered ceiling but my fears are probably unfounded - unless someone has experience of this.

What do people reckon?
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I thought I'd tag on to this thread.

We've been in our place for over six years and we still haven't put any curtains up in any rooms.

The metallic shutters on the outside make the rooms a bit bleak - especially in winter.
Unfortunately, we didn't get any curtain rails put up when we got the place so I need to do that.

Do people think wall or ceiling mounted rails are better? And if so, what sort?

I'm a bit loath to put ceiling ones in as I can imaging drilling into the concrete ceiling will bring down huge chunks of plastered ceiling but my fears are probably unfounded - unless someone has experience of this.

What do people reckon?
Dont they already come attached to the ceiling? When I moved into my flat there were already curtain rails(glider type) attached).
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Old 25.06.2015, 12:39
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Dont they already come attached to the ceiling? When I moved into my flat there were already curtain rails(glider type) attached).
No, not in our case. It was a new build and we forgot to add it to the list.
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No, not in our case. It was a new build and we forgot to add it to the list.
Well I wouldn't bother with ceiling fixtures...


Its easier do buy something like this:


http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S69929247/
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Well I wouldn't bother with ceiling fixtures...


Its easier do buy something like this:


http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S69929247/
Nice idea. However, it may not be useful in all situations:

- "Tagvorhang" are the see-thru light fabric kind
- "Nachtvorhang" are made of heavier, denser fabric, they can be heavy especially if you hang them up half-wet after washing. This solution may be unable to carry that kind of weight.
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Nice idea. However, it may not be useful in all situations:

- "Tagvorhang" are the see-thru light fabric kind
- "Nachtvorhang" are made of heavier, denser fabric, they can be heavy especially if you hang them up half-wet after washing. This solution may be unable to carry that kind of weight.
We don't need heavy curtains though - we have electric shutters so it's more cosmetic.
The windows are double glazed so curtains are not needed to keep the heat in either.
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We don't need heavy curtains though - we have electric shutters so it's more cosmetic.
The windows are double glazed so curtains are not needed to keep the heat in either.
There are fabric panel systems with tracks which install on the walls. You might prefer panels if you are looking for a more "cosmetic look".
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Re: Where to buy curtain runners with wheels

I have spare curtain runners but you need to tell me the size to see if they match.

I give for free
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I thought I'd tag on to this thread.

I'm a bit loath to put ceiling ones in as I can imaging drilling into the concrete ceiling will bring down huge chunks of plastered ceiling but my fears are probably unfounded - unless someone has experience of this.

What do people reckon?


Your Apartment is modern enough that it is almost certainly reinforced concrete (as opposed to drywall, or plaster/lath). The "plaster" skim is only a few mm thick, and it isn't plaster nowadays either. No risk of chunks falling down at all. You may have bad luck and hit the rebar, but on a ceiling that would mean that you have drilled your hole WAY too deep.


Low/mid market priced wall mounted rail Systems are available at IKEA, or any Baucenter. Top market can get breathtakingly expensive, A while back I helped a neighbor install his designer rails: over 10K CHF for the rails alone to cover 5 Windows! They are cool as all get out, but...


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