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Lets leave the grandparents out of this!

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Re: neighbo above complaining abt child

The pope is a catholic. Night follows day. Babies cry.

The worst thing when you have a a crying baby is for the parent dealing with it to get stressed. The neighbour stamping in the floor does not help the situation one iota.

My son went through a period of waking up in the night which we handled in the end. He also used to cry when not feeling well, when a bit colickey, when hungry, cold etc etc. Sometimes you can stop the crying straight away. Sometimes not.

My sister's little one is approaching 2 months old and he had quite a few problems feeding initially which the parents are working through. At the moment he has problems with reflux - and he can be fine all day then inconsolable going down at night. Again they are trying different things and in a month or so it will be gone and you move on to the next parenting conundrum.

Babies do not come with a user manual. They are all different. If I hear a screaming baby on the tram, in our apartment building, my reaction is, "got the t-shirt".

OP: If your neighbour complains, inform her politely that you appreciate that your baby's crying might be disturbing for her - and that you also find it stressful as the baby's mother. Also inform said neighbour that contrary to helping matters, childish behaviour like stamping on the floor is more likely to exacerbate the situation.

It anounts to the same as telling her to f.. off - just doing it in the nicest possible way.

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Re: neighbo above complaining abt child

"By acting before she complains you prove you care."
The woman stamps on the floor. That doesn't indicate a considerate person open to sweet talk. People are entitled to a life & life means occasionally making a noise. Why do people suffering from ignorant gits have to be polite & diplomatic? If the woman has (had) a life & kids, she wouldn't be reacting like that anyway. This has nothing to do with Swissitude.
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Re: neighbo above complaining abt child

Giving in to a petulant child is merely making a rod for your own back.

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The woman stamps on the floor. That doesn't indicate a considerate person open to sweet talk. People are entitled to a life & life means occasionally making a noise. Why do people suffering from ignorant gits have to be polite & diplomatic? If the woman has (had) a life & kids, she wouldn't be reacting like that anyway. This has nothing to do with Swissitude.
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Re: neighbo above complaining abt child

I have full compassion for any parent who has a crying baby. That is hard work, and as nickatbasel has said, the parents keep experimenting, trying to find a method which helps soothe Baby, knowing that the method may last for a few weeks (or even only this one time) and will necessarily have to be adapted as Baby grows up. Also, for als long as Baby cries, the parents are probably not getting enough sleep, and that makes anyone frazzled.

I also have compassion for anyone who has to put up with a crying baby. But they do, in the end, have to put up with it. And non-care-givers of any baby don't even have the opportunity to try to help Baby to relax, but just have to stand by, hoping that the parents/carers will be successful.

About the stamping on the floor: is1107 has heard bangs or bumps, and they bother her, and upset Baby. However, she cannot know for certain, that those noises are Neighbourlady stamping her foot on the floor. In blocks of flats, sounds can travel through the walls and floors in the most remarkable way, and in unexpected directions. Is1107, unless you and Neighbourlady are the only folk in the building, you cannot know for sure that the bumpy noises come from her. And even if it is just the two of you, she could be generating that noise doing something else, something that has nothing whatsoever to do with you. She has complained to you about Baby, yes, but it does not automatically follow that the noise you hear is from her, and even less so that she generates it as a deliberate message to you.

But even if your assumption is true, what to do?

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The woman stamps on the floor. That doesn't indicate a considerate person open to sweet talk. People are entitled to a life & life means occasionally making a noise. Why do people suffering from ignorant gits have to be polite & diplomatic? If the woman has (had) a life & kids, she wouldn't be reacting like that anyway. This has nothing to do with Swissitude.
Why be polite and diplomatic? Well, to reach a solution. To avoid a war. To make life better not just for that one mini-triumphant moment of telling the "ignorant git" to dzdzdz... but to actually build a solution in which as many people as possible can relax. Longterm. As Baby grows up into Child.

Neighbourlady (and we here on the forum) cannot know how many other factors and stressors is1107 is juggling besides caring for Baby, in the same way, is1107, you probably do not know what else Neighbourlady is going through in her life. I'm not proposing setting up an in-house therapy group! I'm just suggesting that it is worth finding out which part of what, precisely, is causing the upset.

It is my experience that many who complain have some sort of problem themselves. So yes, I think it is worth being diplomatic, and for that purpose (if not simply out of common person-to-person respect) even essential to remain polite, in order to find out what concessions one could make without driving oneself crazy. Ideally, there'd be peace and harmony, but failing that, understanding. People like to be taken seriously. That can happen by asking them what they really need so they will feel the situation has improved, and explaining one's own needs, and showing goodwill to find some aspect(s) in the range in the middle, to change.


Just to illustrate: if Neighbourlady is upset about a) Baby, and b) that on her laundry day she may start washing only at 14h, when she'd prefer to start at 12h, and c) that her back aches in the morning when she goes downstairs to fetch her newspaper, and d) that she doen't know who will water her plants when she is away, then perhaps is1107 could offer something on one of the other areas, that is easy for is1107 to do. Take the morning newspaper upstairs to her every morning, for example. If is1107 is awake early anyway, because of Baby, and physically fit, it might be really no big task to do for Neighbourlady. And though that wouldn't immediately change a single thing about when Baby does or does not cry, the overall "deal" that Neighbourlady gets will be better. That might help her to feel that is1107 is really helpful and kind, when you come to think of it, and that, in turn, could help Neighbourlady to be less inclined to complain about Baby. And to stop stamping on the floor, if that's what she is doing. So is1107 and Baby can relax more. And in at least some small way, that might even help Baby to cry less.


That's why I think it is worth approaching Neighbourlady to ask her to think though something that could be done, by both parties, to make things better. My sister, when she wants to commence the conversation to find a working solution to this kind of problem, has a magic, heart-opening trick: she bakes a cake and takes it round as a gift to the complainer.

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hey All.
i am writing asking for tips and suggestions. my neighbor above us is making me crazy. her complain us my child cries all day and she cant work, sleep etc etc.
all the more she stamps on the floor and makes me mad while i am trying to pacify a child who had a bad dream or is in pain due to teething.

i am really annoyed with her and would appreciate expert advice.


please asap
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The woman stamps on the floor. That doesn't indicate a considerate person open to sweet talk. People are entitled to a life & life means occasionally making a noise. Why do people suffering from ignorant gits have to be polite & diplomatic? If the woman has (had) a life & kids, she wouldn't be reacting like that anyway. This has nothing to do with Swissitude.
neddy, neighbor tried other means before stamping her foot.

After a while, once nerves got stretched enough, some people resolve to childish behaviour, obviously this applies to both OP and neighbor. However, that doesn't solve the problem, or reduce it. Quite the contrary.

Come to think of it:
You seem to have (had) kids. What do you do if, for the thousandth time, one acts childish and the other reacts similarly childish and, when asked why, replies "the other started it". Do you mean to say you care who started the thang? Or won't you much rather say "I don't care, resolve the issue"?

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All the OP says is the neighbour complained. We have no idea what form that has taken. You may be adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 5 here.

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Send them to their room and don't let them out until they are prepared to behave. Change the WiFi password. Have a week's TV watching ban. The list is endless.

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What do you do if, for the thousandth time, one acts childish and the other reacts similarly childish and, when asked why, replies "the other started it". Do you mean to say you care who started the thang? Or won't you much rather say "I don't care, resolve the issue"?
Ah, the wisdom of Solomon. In my experience, parental indifference rarely helps, because usually one of the children has a genuine grievance, and both of them know it. In general, it's better for parents to take every opportunity to focus positively on "big man" behaviours such as being truthful and honest and conciliatory.
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Re: neighbo above complaining abt child

Neighbour needs to either find a new sound proof apartment... or, sound proof her current one. May I suggest some carpets on the floor to also help with the stomping problem? Good luck... also been there, done that here in Switzerland! It sucks
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Re: neighbo above complaining abt child

We have a similar issue, with a twist.

Our neighbours upstairs have a child that cries, screams in fact, very very often.

Our neighbours across the hall have three young kids, keep all their crap in the hall (scooters, shoes etc) and have them get ready to go out, outside their front door, shouting to each other all the while. The communal areas have a marble facade, so you can imagine the noise levels.

Now, the first instance they can do nothing about really - so we wear ear plugs of a night time. The second, well, the way they talk to each other doesn't suggest that it's worth having a word, they never ever ask their kids to calm down, and are very shouty themselves. So, not going to do anything about that either, just have to bear it during the day.

It's a tricky one, this kids thing. Not having children myself, you're lucky if we're your neighbour - we're quiet all the time. But you're unlucky if you have the alternative (as described).

I try to be fair about it (and I'm looking to move out actually, as it's not pleasant on a 24 / 7 basis), but there's not a lot you can do.

Suggesting though that you shouldn't live in an apartment if you don't like noise is ridiculous. Not everyone can afford a detached house in Switzerland clearly. So, it's luck and hopefully a bit of consideration from your neighbours, both ways.

To the OP, if you're genuinely doing your best, then that's all you can do. Your neighbours are just unlucky and have to deal with it until it calms down. That's a fact, unpalatable though it might sound, that it's not good for them (this to the "tell them to eff off brigade"), but it's true.
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Old 29.05.2015, 15:37
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We have a similar issue, with a twist.

Our neighbours upstairs have a child that cries, screams in fact, very very often.

Our neighbours across the hall have three young kids, keep all their crap in the hall (scooters, shoes etc) and have them get ready to go out, outside their front door, shouting to each other all the while. The communal areas have a marble facade, so you can imagine the noise levels.

Now, the first instance they can do nothing about really - so we wear ear plugs of a night time. The second, well, the way they talk to each other doesn't suggest that it's worth having a word, they never ever ask their kids to calm down, and are very shouty themselves. So, not going to do anything about that either, just have to bear it during the day.

It's a tricky one, this kids thing. Not having children myself, you're lucky if we're your neighbour - we're quiet all the time. But you're unlucky if you have the alternative (as described).

I try to be fair about it (and I'm looking to move out actually, as it's not pleasant on a 24 / 7 basis), but there's not a lot you can do.

Suggesting though that you shouldn't live in an apartment if you don't like noise is ridiculous. Not everyone can afford a detached house in Switzerland clearly. So, it's luck and hopefully a bit of consideration from your neighbours, both ways.

To the OP, if you're genuinely doing your best, then that's all you can do. Your neighbours are just unlucky and have to deal with it until it calms down. That's a fact, unpalatable though it might sound, that it's not good for them (this to the "tell them to eff off brigade"), but it's true.
You could offer to babysit. If you say "it sounds like you're having a hell of a time with all that noise and bedlam all the time. Why not go out, and we'll look after little Charlotte/George while you enjoy some well-deserved peace and quiet. And would you like some help sorting out all that stuff in the stairwell?". This should get the message across. In the unlikely event that they do take you up on your offer, you can always make up some excuse.
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Our neighbours across the hall have three young kids, keep all their crap in the hall (scooters, shoes etc) and have them get ready to go out, outside their front door, shouting to each other all the while. The communal areas have a marble facade, so you can imagine the noise levels.


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I can feel for you. I had similar neighbours for a while. I could deal with the noise. After all, children need to play and its all part of the game. But it did sometimes drive me crazy how they thought the stairs and hallway and garden were theirs to leave their crap at any time of day or night. Bicycles, prams, spades, sticks, stones, clothes, shoes and sometimes even the contents of other people's trash bags were liable to appear in any place at any time including in the laundry room, in the elevator, in mail boxes or blocking other people's doors. This sort of behavior is not primarily about the kids but about their parents who are obviosuly not teaching their kids the concept of respecting other people's space or maintaining order.
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All the OP says is the neighbour complained. We have no idea what form that has taken. You may be adding 2 and 2 and coming up with 5 here.
A complaint involves language, written or spoken, addressing OP. That is "other means" before the foot-stamping.
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You could offer to babysit. If you say "it sounds like you're having a hell of a time with all that noise and bedlam all the time. Why not go out, and we'll look after little Charlotte/George while you enjoy some well-deserved peace and quiet. And would you like some help sorting out all that stuff in the stairwell?". This should get the message across. In the unlikely event that they do take you up on your offer, you can always make up some excuse.


Or, in the unlikely event that they do take you up on your offer, you could look after little Charlotte/George. Or help them sort out all that stuff in the stairwell. Seriosly. Why not?

Your neighbours will, as Jern says, probably get the message very clearly. And if they do need some peace and quiet (as most parents of young children really do, even when they don't realise it themselves) then they will think you are an amazing neighbour to make that possible. And be more inclined to try, on other days, to make some concessions to whatever it is that you need (like a tidy entrance hall).
If you are nice to Charlotte/George, then as she/he grows up, she/he is likely to remember you as the nice neighbour, and will probably react positively when you ask him/her to turn down the music.
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Yep- that is what my neighbour did (in the UK) when mine were young. She would tell me to just go for a swim or to town or have coffee with a friend- and have a good time- and come back when I was ready. She was wonderful.

And this is what I do with my neighbours who have young kids when I can see they are at the end of their tether- in memory of this. It works. But I have to say we do not share a house- and so do not have to put up with the crying and screaming (and neither did my neighbour at the time)- and for this we are very lucky. Appartment living with young kids must be very hard.

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Or, in the unlikely event that they do take you up on your offer, you could look after little Charlotte/George.
And once the parents have gone out, tell them that if they ever make any noise you'll come into their dreams in the middle of the night and cut their tongues out.
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Come to think of it:
You seem to have (had) kids. What do you do if, for the thousandth time, one acts childish and the other reacts similarly childish and, when asked why, replies "the other started it". Do you mean to say you care who started the thang? Or won't you much rather say "I don't care, resolve the issue"?
You could try saying "Pick your stuff up off the floor".
Youngsters ALWAYS have stuff lying on the floor and are so furious at Mum for being so pernickety AGAIN, that they sometimes forget that their quarrel was with each other.
When youngsters say "He started it. I didn't do anything". A possible reply from Mum is "and what did you do before you didn't do anything?"
Just occasionally it throws the youngsters off balance. And it makes a change anyway.
Been there. Done that. Survived. Now those same youngsters are confronted with the same problems with their own offspring. Serves 'em right!
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Hello all,

Just to clarify, I'm not fussed with a bit of clutter in communal areas, I was using this to illustrate that it's outside their flat where they spend some time getting ready before heading off.

I certainly won't be offering babysitting duties either. They're proper little buggers.
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