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How is the expat community like in Zurich? :-)

May I ask you some questions:

- what was most challenging when you first arrived to Zurich, how did you adapt?

- what is the expat community like in Zurich?

- would you have a list of recommended places to meet other expats in real life or through websites / forums / expat groups? Bars, night clubs, ...?

- any thread in here about touristic visits already I imagine?

thanks in advance!
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Re: How is the expat community like in Zurich? :-)

English Forum used to have a great community spirit with loads of social events and get togethers where I met many of my friends (of all nationalities, including locals). That changed some time ago and there's little social activity here anymore.

You haven't said what your interests or age group are, but there are many groups on FB based in town, this one is very lively. Otherwise, there's plenty of Meet-up groups with different interests, just do a search.

Personally, I've never had a problem meeting new people and making friends wherever I've been, but I do know plenty of people who find it difficult to make friends here.

Re challenges, the only one for me was language (and still is). And re touristic stuff, just search the forum for day trips and things to do, the search button is top right, EF is full of useful crap.
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Old 22.05.2015, 10:29
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English Forum used to have a great community spirit with loads of social events and get togethers where I met many of my friends (of all nationalities, including locals). That changed some time ago and there's little social activity here anymore.
I'll be back soon.
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Old 22.05.2015, 11:02
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Re: How is the expat community like in Zurich? :-)

The club is the formal meeting location for all things expat, so do ensure your people get in touch with an existing member so they can make proper introductions.
Tea is of course daily in the rotunda, and the men retire for cigars and brandy in the game room after dinner. It is coat and tie after 1500. Dress uniform is also acceptable.
The staff arrange safaris and other outings on a routine basis and will ensure all your other needs are taken care of. That is what they are there for after all.
We don't mix with the locals much. Savages really, but what should we expect when they don't speak the King's? Do bring extra deodorant and brown sugar.


Oh wait - you were asking about Zurich. I'm in Basel. never mind.
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Old 22.05.2015, 11:19
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Re: How is the expat community like in Zurich? :-)

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Old 22.05.2015, 11:25
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Old 22.05.2015, 11:54
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It's essentially a ghetto. They congregate together, and then later whine about being treated differently. Us vs. Them mentality not very conducive to adapting and settling. A third of Zuerich is already foreigner. Not much need to look very hard. Its a much richer experience to open your doors to everybody without discriminating. Learn the language.
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Old 22.05.2015, 12:31
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It's essentially a ghetto. They congregate together, and then later whine about being treated differently. Us vs. Them mentality not very conducive to adapting and settling. A third of Zuerich is already foreigner. Not much need to look very hard. Its a much richer experience to open your doors to everybody without discriminating. Learn the language.
Some of the expats tend to get some special form of Stockholm syndrome and start being even more grumpy and anti-foreigner than the locals. Middle aged English and American males seem to be particularly prone to this.
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Some of the expats tend to get some special form of Stockholm syndrome and start being even more grumpy and anti-foreigner than the locals. Middle aged English and American males seem to be particularly prone to this.


I take great exception to that; I don't live anywhere near Zurich.
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May I ask you some questions:

- what was most challenging when you first arrived to Zurich, how did you adapt?

- what is the expat community like in Zurich?

- would you have a list of recommended places to meet other expats in real life or through websites / forums / expat groups? Bars, night clubs, ...?

- any thread in here about touristic visits already I imagine?

thanks in advance!
1. everything about Zuerich was challenging to me when I first arrived. I adapted by keeping my chin up, joining 2 sports clubs and making a solemn vow to learn the local language. by joining a club and at least trying the local language, you will still never be welcomed by the real Ruetlischwur types but you will pretty quickly be welcomed by plenty of others, particularly secondos and those who have experienced the same growing pangs as you. you will also no doubt encounter the infrequent expat.

2. I hated the expat community in Zurich, with rare exception. for far too many expats, Switzerland is like a Disneyland where folks spend their weekend evenings complaining about the people in the costumes. and I candidly disliked the notion that, just because we share citizenship and find ourselves halfway across the world, we should somehow become fast friends - if I wouldn't like you in Detroit, why would I like you in Zurich? if you are willing to leave your comfort zone, you will find yourself far happier and with far more to do.

keep an open mind, explore every chance you get and enjoy the hell out of it. expat friends come and go, no matter how much they talk about keeping in touch once they leave. the other friends you will make will stick.

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Old 22.05.2015, 12:38
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Some of the expats tend to get some special form of Stockholm syndrome and start being even more grumpy and anti-foreigner than the locals.
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I take great exception to that; I don't live anywhere near Zurich.
That's the worst kind.
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Some of the expats tend to get some special form of Stockholm syndrome and start being even more grumpy and anti-foreigner than the locals. Middle aged English and American males seem to be particularly prone to this.


But it's funny. Kind of.
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Personally, I've never had a problem meeting new people and making friends wherever I've been, but I do know plenty of people who find it difficult to make friends here.
Of course you don't have a problem here. You have beer! Who would not want to meet you.
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Re: How is the expat community like in Zurich? :-)

There are tonnes of expats in Zurich so you can barely avoid them, even if you're trying If you're the pub type you can hang around at Paddys, the Oliver Twist or any of the other expat pubs looking wistful. All of the close friends I have met here in Switzerland, just like back home, share a common interest (in my case a love of the outdoors). So I'd recommend searching the forum for people with common interests or joining a club. It might take a little while to establish a network, as it would anywhere, but be patient and it will all work out in the end!
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It's essentially a ghetto. They congregate together, and then later whine about being treated differently. Us vs. Them mentality not very conducive to adapting and settling. A third of Zuerich is already foreigner. Not much need to look very hard. Its a much richer experience to open your doors to everybody without discriminating. Learn the language.

Already ? It has been that way up from WW-ONE. People of course become Swiss after a while. Example, Mr Blocher is a third generation German
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Some Zurich expats yesterday.


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Already ? It has been that way up from WW-ONE. People of course become Swiss after a while. Example, Mr Blocher is a third generation German
There is a difference between expats and immigrants Wolli. One indication is whether they get paid contractor rates, or permanent employee salaries. The immigrants tend to take their lives here seriously. The expats tend to be "temporary" rich and whiny bitches.
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