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Why not charge passengers for a go at piloting the plane?

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Now that's an idea the CEO would likely welcome, especially after charging them training fees.

2 years ago it was this ( BJs )

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then they blast this fanfare music to announce "Another on-time flight". In the back of my mind I'm thinking, how the hell did they manage that when we were delayed for 30 mins at Girona
How Ryanair seem to always have an on time record is because they say for example your flight time will be 1 hour 30 min but in actual fact the REAL flight time is only 1 hour 10 min. This is how they always seem to be "on-time" you can check up the real flight times between cities on Howmanyhours It is not just Ryanair that use this tactic a lot of other airlines do too
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Stewardesses to land their planes in the event of an emergency ...
This is just rubbish, it's not Michal O'Leary who dictates the rules it's the CAA.

What Michael O'Leary's objective is, is to get himeself or the airline in the news as much as possible, be it positive or negative, it's irrelevant to him.

His theory is the more people talk about it, more chance they'll use it.
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How Ryanair seem to always have an on time record is because they say for example your flight time will be 1 hour 30 min but in actual fact the REAL flight time is only 1 hour 10 min. This is how they always seem to be "on-time" you can check up the real flight times between cities on Howmanyhours It is not just Ryanair that use this tactic a lot of other airlines do too

train companies have been using that trick for many many years
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A pilot counter suggests that the CEO should be replaced with a flight attendant

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A pilot for budget carrier Ryanair has come up with a new money-saving idea after the firm suggested axing co-pilots on flights -- replace the airline's boss with a flight attendant.


Captain Morgan Fischer, a senior pilot based in Marseilles, southern France, mounted the rare public challenge after the latest cost-cutting proposal from his boss, Michael O'Leary.
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Not the cas as the Rail Union is the strongest union in the UK.

Average salary for a Train Driver was £39,000 in 2001. A Eurostar Driver was getting £48,000.

I worked as Interim FD of a TOC (Train Operating Company) and used to take the pi$$ out of the train drivers light heartedly informing them that compared to bus drivers they were way over paid. I used to explain that a bus driver was getting £7.30 an hour and limited to 40 hours a week and:

1) Bus drivers can make only one error at the traffic lights when they go though in Orange. Train drivers get an Orange and a Double Orange at signals and on top of this there is warning system on the train for the driver that he has gone through a signal.

2) Train drivers can not take a wrong turning while bus drivers have to know their route.
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Yes but he is no fool and handled the suggestion really well in my opinion with:

In a typically mischievous response, O'Leary conceded that a flight attendant would be a "far more attractive" chief executive and said the suggestion was being seriously examined.

More great publicity for Ryanair. thanks to the muppet press.
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Not the cas as the Rail Union is the strongest union in the UK.

Average salary for a Train Driver was £39,000 in 2001. A Eurostar Driver was getting £48,000.

I worked as Interim FD of a TOC (Train Operating Company) and used to take the pi$$ out of the train drivers light heartedly informing them that compared to bus drivers they were way over paid. I used to explain that a bus driver was getting £7.30 an hour and limited to 40 hours a week and:

1) Bus drivers can make only one error at the traffic lights when they go though in Orange. Train drivers get an Orange and a Double Orange at signals and on top of this there is warning system on the train for the driver that he has gone through a signal.

2) Train drivers can not take a wrong turning while bus drivers have to know their route.

no, I meant train companies have been saying a 30 minute journey will take 1 hour etc just to try and make sure they are on time. Or cancel a train rather then allow it to arrive late.

My train journey to work in the uk was about 40km (give or take) for this the journey time was 90 minutes according to the time table, this meant the train was often travelling at a walking pace (it was the 'fast' train, with no stops between us and london) a total joke.
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Re: Ryanair clobbers passengers with yet more punitive charges

Don't forget Ryanair sells duty free on board, I would not be surprised if they increase the selection with no charge for carrying as extra bag - cornering the market as it were !
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How Ryanair seem to always have an on time record is because they say for example your flight time will be 1 hour 30 min but in actual fact the REAL flight time is only 1 hour 10 min. This is how they always seem to be "on-time" you can check up the real flight times between cities on Howmanyhours It is not just Ryanair that use this tactic a lot of other airlines do too
The trained eye might notice that the flight time can and often does vary depending on time of day, and day of week.

The trained eye might further notice that tickets talk of "departure time" and "arrival time", and sometimes of "duration", but never of "flight time".

The trained ear might observe that the first mention of "flight time" is usually once one is airborne, and on the way to one's destination.

The trained mind might then start to think that there's more to it all than just the distance between two airports (which one might reasonably expect to stay fairly constant over the course of the week).

The seasoned traveller might describe many times have they sat, long after "departure time" has come and gone, with everything not rev'd up but ready to go, due to "missing passenger", "bad weather at destination", "route congestion" and even "they won't let us take off because we won't be allowed to land at the other end yet".

The seasoned traveller might also confirm that, just when things all seemed to be tickety-boo, they have found themselves spending half-an-hour circling overhead London on a supposedly one-hour flight.

The regular traveller to Zurich of a Monday morning might further confirm "not allowed to land" as a speciality of Zurich airport: namely, "flow control". (Something to do with antisocial behaviour, apparently, or at least amnesia: "Let's build an intercontinental hub of an airport, add a new runway, but let's completely 'forget' to ask the neighbours in the Big Kanton if they will mind the noise. " Somewhat ironic, in the circumstances...)

The user of logic might therefore conclude that the "padding" in a journey time would appear to be to accommodate issues external to an airline and provide a semblance of regularity and predictability in an ever-changing world.

The possessor of common sense might then agree with the user of logic, on the grounds that nothing should please an airline more than to always leave at the stated time, always fly at the most economic speed and always arrive at the stated time.

Might be a thought...
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the new design for standing only room 'seats' on RyanAir short-haul flights?

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How Ryanair seem to always have an on time record is because they say for example your flight time will be 1 hour 30 min but in actual fact the REAL flight time is only 1 hour 10 min. This is how they always seem to be "on-time" you can check up the real flight times between cities on Howmanyhours It is not just Ryanair that use this tactic a lot of other airlines do too
Personally, I couldn't give a stuff if we leave late.

If we get there on time, then great, as all activities tend to be based on arrival time rather than departure time to destination.

Really, what's your beef with this?

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I'm always late the game
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Surely you could cram in far more supine passengers, and if you sedate them and give an injection of botulinum toxin (to make them go all floppy) you could stack them up like Persian rugs.

Who needs an Airbus A380 and 20 crew members when you can fly 900 souls + 2 pilot in a regular Boeing 737?

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Ryanair pilot quits after being sent to ‘dreadful’ Lithuania


Suggestions box: Capt Fischer said Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary should be replaced by a cabin crew member

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07.12.10

A Ryanair pilot who said his boss Michael O'Leary should be replaced with a flight attendant to save money has quit after being moved to Lithuania.
Captain Morgan Fischer was one of almost 30 Ryanair pilots working in the south of France who had to move after the airline announced in October that it was closing its base in Marseille following a disagreement with French authorities.
Most of the pilots were offered postings at bases in Spain, Italy and Portugal. But Capt Fischer, who lives with his family in Aix-en-Provence, said he was eventually offered a post at the “Siberia” of a base in Lithuania.
Two months ago the pilot attacked comments made by Mr O'Leary calling for co-pilots to be removed from the flight deck to save money.
The Irish airline's chief executive also claimed that air stewardesses could instead be trained to land an aircraft in an emergency.
Responding in a letter to a newspaper, Capt Fischer wrote: “I would propose that Ryanair replace the chief executive with a probationary cabin crew member currently earning about €13,200 (£11,000) net a year.”
Capt Fischer refused to comment on his resignation but a colleague said his posting to Kaunas in Lithuania was “a fairly considerable kick in the teeth”.
He told the Financial Times: “Kaunas is considered Siberia for Ryanair pilots. It's very unpopular to be sent there. It's the back of nowhere with a completely different language. You're in eastern Europe and the money is dreadfully bad.”
Stephen McNamara, from Ryanair, said the airline could not comment on individual employees. He said: “All our Marseille pilots have been offered positions at other Ryanair bases and the vast majority have already accepted these offers.
“Should some pilots choose not to, and resign, then much as we would regret such a decision, we would respect it and wish them every success.”

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Last time I got one it was basically my Lloyds Bank bank card. But that was a long time ago. Don't know if that is still the situation now.

He's changed it now - it's no longer an Electron card you want but a Clearcash card - one that you must pre-load with cash first (at a charge), plus also pay to get the card first too. Maybe he has an interest in them as well.

I have read an aasortment of the comments - most of the issues, apart from the issues of safety, maintenance, training and staff treatment, are all stated up front for everyone to see. Work their system and you get basic, cheap flights.

I have been using them regularly from the last three years (and before irregularly) becasue of this; they also fly out of quite a lot of
Scottish airports. For familes it makes air-travel affordable. They also, unlike Squeezy Jet, have wonderful time-keeping most of the time enabling you to catch connecting flights.

It is love/hate, but I have been treated like dirt by a large number of airlines over the years -from BA to Bangladesh Biman; Qantas and Lufthansa were perhaps the worst, and Egypt Air left me in the plane on the tarmac at Aswan for 12 hours inseatd of connecting in Cairo.

If we forget expecting air travel to be a pleasant experience and accept it in the terms of an overcrowed bus, then we will not expect so much.

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Ryanair pilot quits after being sent to ‘dreadful’ Lithuania
For your amusement and entertainment, here's his "resignation/gulag" letter...
(one might note that he's not just a pilot, but actually quite senior)

I wouldn't worry about him too much - he'll be off to fly shiny new stuff for Etihad or similar. I'd worry much more about him (or at least I would if I used Ryanair, which I never will) being replaced by an acne-faced low-hours yes-man


(From the Financial Times in September 2010)

From Captain Morgan Fischer.

Sir, I would like to share with you a cost-saving suggestion I have proposed to the Ryanair board . I write in my capacity as a B737-800 line training captain assigned to Ryanair’s Marseilles, France base. My primary job responsibility involves the line training and checking of co-pilots and captains on both an initial and a recurrent basis.

As a Ryanair employee, I am aware of the company’s desire to reduce costs whenever feasible, and, in so doing, pass on these lower costs in the form of lower fares to the travelling public.

I would propose that Ryanair replace the chief executive with a probationary cabin crew member currently earning about €13,200 net a year. Ryanair would benefit by saving millions of euros in salary, benefits and stock options. Further, there will be no need to petition either Boeing or governmental aviation regulators for approval to replace the CEO with a cabin crew member; as such approval would not be required.

Finally, the position of CEO could, in fact, become a source of ancillary revenue for Ryanair. Currently, Ryanair’s contract cabin crew providers charge new recruits for the cost of their training – €3,000 in fact. Ryanair could similarly charge €3,000 for the training required to become chief executive.

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He's changed it now - it's no longer an Electron card you want but a Clearcash card - one that you must pre-load with cash first (at a charge), plus also pay to get the card first too. Maybe he has an interest in them as well.

I have read an aasortment of the comments - most of the issues, apart from the issues of safety, maintenance, training and staff treatment, are all stated up front for everyone to see. Work their system and you get basic, cheap flights.

I have been using them regularly from the last three years (and before irregularly) becasue of this; they also fly out of quite a lot of
Scottish airports. For familes it makes air-travel affordable. They also, unlike Squeezy Jet, have wonderful time-keeping most of the time enabling you to catch connecting flights.

It is love/hate, but I have been treated like dirt by a large number of airlines over the years -from BA to Bangladesh Biman; Qantas and Lufthansa were perhaps the worst, and Egypt Air left me in the plane on the tarmac at Aswan for 12 hours inseatd of connecting in Cairo.

If we forget expecting air travel to be a pleasant experience and accept it in the terms of an overcrowed bus, then we will not expect so much.

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Re: Ryanair clobbers passengers with yet more punitive charges

wow, if ryanair is even worse then easyjet? No thank you!

Last summer I flew easyjet Milan -Amsterdam and vv. Same scenes about tax free items that needed to be in handluggage and that piece of hand luggage fitted in a tiny place (and no: also if both your small pieces of handluggage fit in at the same time, is also not good). So I ended up squashing my purse into the handbag to avoid the EUR25 fine.

Next we were driven like cows in a small place (pre-board area)where you could only wait standing up (having to wait there for more then 30 minutes). The speedy boarding part had 4 chairs, and an older lady who clearly had trouble standing up so long but had not booked speedy boarding was send off in a brutal way.

By the way in Amsterdam you fly from a low cost pier with hardly any shopping, long walks and bad piers. They only announce which gate when boarding starts, and there you are with your speedy boarding ticket (paid extra) somewhere behind in the line cause the stairs are all full.

Onboard the crew was cool and nice for passengers, but sitting on the first row, I overheard them complaining about work and schedules the whole time - both legs. The lavatory in the front was closed.

Well maybe the pilots are better trained and the planes better maintained, which is good for safety, it was a last time with them as I really don;t want to be treated as an animal.
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