Hi All,

Has anyone heard of the VINTA law? I dont know the exact meaning but apparently it provides a window of opportunity for Non-EU B Permit holders to apply for early C Permit after 5 years of stay in Switzerland (instead of 10). Ofcourse, under the condition that one must satisfy certain requirements of integration.

These requirements are German language B1 level, no open debts, no open tax bills, no criminal record etc.

In 3 months, I'll have completed my 5th year with a B permit and I am seriously considering applying for a C permit via this VINTA law. Has anyone applied for an early C permit like this? I'd very much appreciate a little more info on how to proceed.. or Shall i hire a lawyer to handle all this for me?

Thanks
Baris

is VINTA only for B-permit holders or are carte de legitimation holders also eligible?

What does that mean, no "open debts"? So you can't carry a balance on your credit card? no car payment? no mortgage? No capisco.

VINTA:

Verordnung vom 24. Oktober 2007 über die Integration von Ausländerinnen und Ausländern (VIntA)

Source

I doubt it. It means you are don't have any debts that you are overdue which are in collections (being sued for).

The search function (or Google for that matter) is your friend.

Hi Barish,

It is quite easy to apply actually (especially if you have the German knowledge to fill out the forms). I got my C permit in Zug in December. Just fill out the form, get the required papers in order (like a confirmation from your employer) and then go around collecting all the stamps from the various city departments that you paid your taxes, don't have debts in collection, etc. Gave them everything they asked for and in a few weeks, they send the invoice and then the permit in the mail. I wouldn't go to the added expense of hiring someone to do it for you.

If you have specific questions, post here or you can PM me.

I'm Non-EU and I got my C Permit after 5 years in CH (I had an L Permit for two of those years). Just went to the Immigration Office with my passport and a photo and they asked me whether I would like a B or a C, to which I said a C of course. No language test, no request for any criminal, credit or tax records; got my C Permit 3 weeks later in the post. I have US citizenship, maybe that helped.

You are entitled to a C permit after 5 years here as a US citizen... nothing to do with VINTA.

Its not actually Vinta...what you mean is:

"Erteilung der Niederlassungsbewilligung bei erfolgreicher Integration"

http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/142_201/a62.html

Vinta is:

http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/142_205/index.html

Regards.

So does this mean then that as long as I meet the conditions (5 years in Switzerland, French at the A2 level, no threat to Switzerland), then I can already apply for a C permit even if I'm non-EU/US/Canada? How does one go about doing this?

If you are EU, then is another process, I think its a simpler one. Please check the forum.

Thanks, but I am actually non-EU...

Sorry misread your post...and the answer is yes, you may apply, I think if you are Canadian or American, the process is simpler than for the rest of Non-EU.

Regards.

To repeat a question posed previously, does the above require a Permit B, or is it applicable to carte de legitimation holders? If it does apply, any idea if years spend on Student - not work - Permit B would count?

Perhaps you could ask for advice at MIR SAH:
http://www.sah-zh.ch/angebote-im-ueberblick/mirsah/
Besides many other services they consult on migration related issues. They also have a list of lawyers who might help you if your case really needs them.
Good luck!

Hi Superusers of English forum, I'm posting this query as I don't find the appropriate answers in my long search inside the forum. I come from Asia and working in Bern with a permanent contract. I spend 2 years on my L permit plus 2 more years on B permit. Now moving towards my 5th year in Swiss. I prefer to take advantage on the early integration system, applying for C permit by next year. Here pops up my questions.
1. Does the authorities count my 2 years spent on L permit? It was a full time employment.
2. Do I need to have 5 years in total (L+B pemit = 5 years) or exclusively to have 5 years on B permit?

I have A2 German certificate, now, preparing for B1 level.

I appreciate your experience sharing.

You should have 5 years on B, 2+3 will be counted only as 3 so 2 years more of wait....this is only for non- eu. Hope this helps...

By the way, you will find lot of so called forum V,forum L etc who are here just to give crap...welcome to english forum.

Hi,

I am also from Non-EU (from South Asia). I was able to get the C permit after 5 years of my stay in Zurich.

Please find below all the related information about applying for C Permit in Zurich Kanton.

Step 1: While filling the form for renewing the B permit, one must mention in the field "other/sonstiges/ Bemerkungen" that " Ich wohne Seit ........ in der schweiz und wollte unter Vinta für C bewilligung bewerben.

Step 2: The applicant will receive a letter from Migrationsamt Zürich with a list of all the required documents. Within permitted period the applicant has to send all the documents (with a covering letter ) to the address given by Migrationsamt Zürich.

The list generally contains following documents:

1) Certificate that shows the applicant german language skills (Niveau B1 if one is applying after 5 years and Niveau A2 if applying after 10 years) e.g. from TELC, Goethe etc.
2) Certificate showing that applicant is resident of kanton zürich. One can get this certificate from gemeinde.
3) Certificate that shows one is fully integrated in the swiss society e.g. letter from employer or from any verein (club) where one participates regularly.
4) No dues certificate (from gemeinde)
5) No criminal record (from Federal office in Bern)

You can find the additional information on following links:

Read page no 11 of übersicht Aufenthaltskategorien PDF (here it is mentioned that one can get C permit after 5 or 10 years)
http://www.ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherh...tPar-textimage

Link for general information on C permit
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...willigung.html

Link for information on integration: (on this page you will find the link to VintA on right side)
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...tegration.html

Link for criteria required for applying C Permit:
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...19.html#a_0019

I hope this information will be helpful for you and you will be able to get the C permit soon.

Good luck

Excellent first post, very helpful and well written.

Welcome to the forum chbatin..!