Hello everyone! just registered today and I find it very interesting forum you've got here.

Anyway I am from the Philippines and holding a B permit because of my partner which is a swiss passport holder. I am planning to do a home service massage, is it possible for me to get a working permit doing it? I have called the kantonale Verwaltung but they said cannot be done because I am a Filipino..

Anybody can help to answer why? or maybe there is a chance for me to get it?? Your help will be very much appreciated..

Ely

Hello, are you married to your partner?

Hello and Thanks for the quick reply .. :-) Yes I am registered with him..

registered as in married or registered as in something else?

It's pretty important. Richard is asking you SPECIFICALLY if you are MARRIED.

Registered as married..

It a same sex marriage and in my B permit says; Registrierte Partnerschaft.

My B permit allows me to stay but not to work. I have to find a company who is willing to take me then apply for my work permit, which is a big disadvantage. So I am thinking to have my own job which I know I am good at but it seems doesn't work either. Anyway just giving it a shot if someone would know how to get this PERMIT..

Thank's a lot

Will be going out now but will keep it online for any possible info.

Have a nice weekend to everyone!

It's often worth posting this information not in dribs and drabs but perhaps all at once so you might get a decent answer rather than groaned at.

Unfortunately you are quite right about your status and that is you are not entitled to work unless someone is prepared to sponsor you. Note here that your permit is a (more or less)formality to convert into a work permit but it still needs doing. As far as I am aware a same sex partnership has the same rights as a hetrosexual marriage as far as permits are concerned. To this end the easiest way to resolve your problem is to pay 10K to set up a GmbH and then employ yourself through it. Note you can do this and seeing as your partner is a Swiss national you will be given the work permit.

just as an aside, once you have the permit to work it stays that way so that even though you are non-EU you still are fine with respect to changing jobs without needing to go through the usual hoops...

That's a very helpful information indeed.

Thank's a lot Richard and have a nice evening..

Can I have a stupid question?
What is "GmbH"?
I am interested in it, pay 10k and employ myself...

a few questions:
1. I am eligible only if married to a Swiss?
2. Does it apply to every canton?
3. Where can I get more information (website? office?)?
4. GmbH apply to all the industry, including catering, i.e. cafe, restaurant etc.?


Thanks!!!

Richard,
Is the GmbH the only way to get the permit for third-party nationals? I am American, my partner is German. We are not married. I was here on two nearly back-to-back L permits which have now expired. I have done all legal paperwork, left for a while and am now here as a tourist.

I would like to begin taking contract work being offered me. Can I do that as an American business person just coming in for a day, two days to work (especially delivering training and coaching in large corps.)? I have bank accounts, assets (car), etc. here. What are other ways to get a permit? I've been reading your other posts about costs and taxes. I also have a PhD. It would be easy to show unique skills, etc. What's the best way to do this?

Thanks so much. Your posts are great!
Rebecca

Hi Joeyying

A GmbH is a limited company. This is an alternative to being a sole trader. As a sole trader you are liable for all debts of the company personally. With a limited company your are not personally liable - the liability is restricted to the capital (or assets) of the company. If you set up a GmbH you will be a shareholder and a director of the company - your details will be avilable for public scrutiny. An SA is a similar structure but shareholder details are anonymous. You do not actually have to be a resident of Switzerland to be a shareholder of either.

Location: Switzerland ( http://www.locationswitzerland.admin.ch/ ) actively solicits the establishment of SME companies in Sitzerland. You can register the company in any field of commerce and industry.

Take a look at the following link for more ideas on structure: www.henleyglobal.com/swissco.htm

hope this helps

Do you mind expanding on that as it can be misleading. If you want to be a simple shareholder yes it's true. If you want to establish one the conditions are different.

You can establish an SA using a Swiss resident nominee (a variety of companies offer this service in return for a fee). If the capital is fully paid up then anonymous bearer shares are permitted.

So we do agree that both Swiss nationality and residency are something you need either to have or to pay for - until January first of next year that is.

Agreed. What change is happening in January next year?

The law governing company foundation changes; among others the nationality requirement is dropped (residency remains). Also, an AG can be set up by a single person.

And a GmbH too... On the downside partial liberation of capital is being removed so all capital must be fully paid up. It is a bit more complicated than this though but the majority of topics are only variations on the current law so have little impact to "proper" companies

Thanks for the compliment, shame you can't yet see the little thanks button but that is another story.

Your situation is somewhat different. You do not mention if your relationship is same sex or hetrosexual. If the former then this might not have been considered. Firstly, you **could**, not suggesting you do, have your relationship formally recognised. This would then entitle you to a residence permit and given that your partner is a german national an EU permit to boot.

If that for whatever reason is not desireable then you can certainly form a company or have your partner jointly form one and then employ yourself - there is no guarantee that you would however be given a permit for CH - your situation is not quite the same ie you are not here with a permit already.

And then as you suggest you can come and work 1 day here 2 days there or indeed 2 weeks here 1 month there without any problem as long as you are employed by an international company and are coming as a representative of said company to work for a Swiss company on a short term work ie 3 months maximum. You can indeed come for longer if regular home trips are involved. If no home trips then the Swiss get shirty and send you large bills for health insurance, social contributions etc...

So there are several ways to crack a nut and the best is always dependent on your personal situation.