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Old 28.04.2015, 22:01
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I think au-pair has a different status than nanny, and it's not subjected to quotas. (I might be wrong though)
It's "funny" they asked your host family all these questions, as an au-pair comes to learn the language...primarily....sigh.
Anyway, I agree your arguments could be used to justify why they want to hire that nanny and not a Swiss/E.U.-25 nanny. (but it will be difficult)
I worked as an Au Pair, I am a Nanny and I am Romanian (EU-2). I know the differences between them. Even as an Au Pair, my host family had to explain why they want me (EU-2). As a Nanny, it is not different- she has to explain why can't she take one from Switzerland or EU-25 or others than EU-2 (it is easier to hire someone from EU but EU-2). Unless the Nanny already lives here and she just needs the B permit after the L permit.

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What I find frustrating is that I have been advertising and working with agencies for months and interviewed many potentials and only this one actually fits for us (for a number of reasons - some very tangible reasons and the other is just the chemistry). So it should be a walk in the park, but I'm pretty sure it won't be.... and in addition, all these restrictions go away as of May 2016!!
Then explain those reasons. I ''clicked'' with my former Host Family from our first email and worked for them for 2 yrs. If the chemistry is there, then don't back down because of the papers.

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So I just rang the local work authorities in my canton. They said I would need to ring another office in the canton (AHV) to arrange appointment to present case and explain position and they would run a check to see if anyone Swiss or EU-25 could fill position etc and they decide if the permit was granted. I asked if the fact she was already in Switzerland and had worked here before would make a difference and they said no. So I rang the local AHV office (not in my actual town, but nearby) and they said I didn't need an appointment with them - I needed to follow process by local Gemeinde. So I have just spoken with local Gemeinde and explained full situation (nationality, position, current permit status etc) and they have said it is no problem, she needs to deregister in her current canton and reregister in my canton, with proof of contract and passport. Nothing else needed. I stressed again the nationality, current L permit etc... again, no problem.

Could it be?!! Or is something lost in translation here?! perhaps they are thinking of just registration process rather than the actual issue of a permit... hmmmm. Confusing. This is where I wish my german was MUCH better.
You didn't mention in your first post that she is already here ( or did I miss it?). So, even when I moved Cantons, I had to deregister from the old one and then register in the new Canton. You make the contract for her and the fact that she is here makes things much easier. It shouldn't be difficult.
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Re: Romanian nanny permit

Hi Princess Duck! Thanks very much for your input - very helpful. I am taking her to the local gemeinde here to register tomorrow morning, and apparently they will issue the paperwork to the migration office on our behalf. Fingers crossed. It's interesting what you say about her being here making it easier - I've heard different views on this - agencies have said it makes it easier, local gemeinde gave the same impression, works office said it had no impact whatsoever. Lets see. I don't know what happens after the meeting tomorrow but if I have to go and 'present my case' to the migration office then I will definitely also mention the piece around chemistry which really is so important when it comes to someone being in your home and looking after your children - far more important than the rest of what is looked at! Anyway... lets see.... I'll definitely report back once I hear more!
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Old 28.04.2015, 23:07
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Hi Princess Duck! Thanks very much for your input - very helpful. I am taking her to the local gemeinde here to register tomorrow morning, and apparently they will issue the paperwork to the migration office on our behalf. Fingers crossed. It's interesting what you say about her being here making it easier - I've heard different views on this - agencies have said it makes it easier, local gemeinde gave the same impression, works office said it had no impact whatsoever. Lets see. I don't know what happens after the meeting tomorrow but if I have to go and 'present my case' to the migration office then I will definitely also mention the piece around chemistry which really is so important when it comes to someone being in your home and looking after your children - far more important than the rest of what is looked at! Anyway... lets see.... I'll definitely report back once I hear more!
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Old 29.04.2015, 00:32
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I worked as an Au Pair, I am a Nanny and I am Romanian (EU-2). I know the differences between them. Even as an Au Pair, my host family had to explain why they want me (EU-2). As a Nanny, it is not different- she has to explain why can't she take one from Switzerland or EU-25 or others than EU-2 (it is easier to hire someone from EU but EU-2). Unless the Nanny already lives here and she just needs the B permit after the L permit.
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Of course you know the difference, my point was that it should (have) be(en) easier to "hire" an au-pair (it's not a good term because she is considered a member of the family), as there aren't quotas for this: it's a cultural exchange, there are au-pairs coming here from the whole world. You know it better than me, I'm sure.
And again, I'm happy if it is easier to hire private household employees (than for say a small Swiss company that wants to hire an electrician/technician etc). I usually avoid giving people false hopes when they ask if they can come here to work, but of course I always say "just give it a try, send your CV, you never know". But I don't know if I sound so convincing because I have heard of too many cases who almost had the job in their hands but their work permits were refused.
@a-team, finger crossed for you and keep us posted.
P.S. Please, please don't get me wrong; most nannies are highly educated and I know that, it's just how immigration authorities perceive this profession.

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Re: Romanian nanny permit

Guys, as far as I know, these restrictions for EU-2 nationals expire on May 31st and I believe that they cannot be extended anymore ? What do you think ?
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Guys, as far as I know, these restrictions for EU-2 nationals expire on May 31st and I believe that they cannot be extended anymore ? What do you think ?
No, it's not true. And anyway I don't trust anything anymore when it comes to these issues. I've seen the horrible anti-E.U. 2 propaganda in UK and I'm skeptical. I'm actually sick of it, it was shocking. And a big eye-opener about what "civilised" Europe really means. Sigh.
P.S. Same opinion for Schengen space; technical conditions are met and tons of money were spent to meet the criteria but they keep us waiting. He he...what did we think?

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Re: Romanian nanny permit

I think these Anti-EU 2 propagandas and campaigns are not exactly against EU 2 people but against the roma (gipsy) population of the EU-2..they are completely different people, just happened to be born there, dont speak the local language at all , and are even marginalized within the EU-2, let alone the EU-28 :
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Old 03.05.2015, 12:14
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Guys, as far as I know, these restrictions for EU-2 nationals expire on May 31st and I believe that they cannot be extended anymore ? What do you think ?
You've got another year to go yet. They don't run out until 31st May 2016.

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...r_schweiz.html
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Re: Romanian nanny permit

Yes, 31 May 2016, thats what I meant..I was just wondering if they can extend it even further..
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Re: Romanian nanny permit

Not sure if there's a limit on the duration for that or not Der_Spieler.

Of course it may depend too on what's happening regarding the immigration vote recently. The plans on how to move forward for that are due out end of 2016/early 2017 I think.
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Re: Romanian nanny permit

a-team--any updates?
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Hi everyone,

I'd like to know if any of you have managed to hire a Romanian nanny/babysitter since May this year.
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Old 08.12.2015, 12:55
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Hi everyone,

I'd like to know if any of you have managed to hire a Romanian nanny/babysitter since May this year.
Why? The rules are no different from the previous year. The quota restriction isn't due to end until 31st May 2016 and may well be extended to 2019.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...r_schweiz.html
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Why? The rules are no different from the previous year. The quota restriction isn't due to end until 31st May 2016 and may well be extended to 2019.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...r_schweiz.html
I'd like to know if a full-time job is required for someone who will get work permit for the first time. Or can it be 70-90% too? Also what is the minimum monthly wages?
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Re: Romanian nanny permit

To PrincessDuck:

Is it true your employers have to guarantee for you CHF 1000/year?

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Old 08.12.2015, 13:34
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Re: Romanian nanny permit

http://www.perfectway.ch/en/for-fami...formation.html

Also check Zurich canton's rules for the hiring of domestic helpers.

http://www.perfectway.ch/fileadmin/d...Verordnung.pdf
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