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31.01.2012, 14:04
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dear friends,
cuz of some problems i must leave my country in order to enter switzerland as an asylum seeker,i will enter swiss vis a schengen visa which is not from swiss embassy.
my question is will the government of swiss deport me to a country which issued me a schengen visa?i have heard it will but i am not sure.if yes what should i do to prevent from this problem?
plz do me a favour and answer me
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31.01.2012, 14:29
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland
If you can get a Schengen visa you are no longer in danger, you can save your money and stay where you are. Switzerland will not accept you as a refugee, you will be sent back again.
And do not expect an asylum giving country to help you avoid a criminal sentence in your home country. You will be sent back to Iran.
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31.01.2012, 14:58
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thanks for the answer.
i can not live where i am,i am still in danger,i got my schengen visa from a baltic country,can i ask for asylum in the embassy of switzerland in lithuania?is it possible?
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31.01.2012, 15:05
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | thanks for the answer.
i can not live where i am,i am still in danger,i got my schengen visa from a baltic country,can i ask for asylum in the embassy of switzerland in lithuania?is it possible? | | | | | It rather depends on the reasons for seeking asylum. If it's a reason for which the Baltic issuer of your visa wouldn't grant asylum, then it's possilbe Switzerland will grant it.
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31.01.2012, 15:10
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | thanks for the answer.
i can not live where i am,i am still in danger,i got my schengen visa from a baltic country,can i ask for asylum in the embassy of switzerland in lithuania?is it possible? | | | | | No, you can only ask for asylum in the first country you arrive in, i.e. in this case Lithuania itself, not a foreign embassy located there.
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31.01.2012, 15:11
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | thanks for the answer.
i can not live where i am,i am still in danger,i got my schengen visa from a baltic country,can i ask for asylum in the embassy of switzerland in lithuania?is it possible? | | | | | No, you have to come to Switzerland. And they will send you back to Lithuania because you should apply for Asylum there. Swiss asylum procedure, and more specifically Dublin II procedure | | The following 2 users would like to thank tom tulpe for this useful post: | | 
31.01.2012, 15:12
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland | Quote: | |  | | | It rather depends on the reasons for seeking asylum. If it's a reason for which the Baltic issuer of your visa wouldn't grant asylum, then it's possilbe Switzerland will grant it. | | | | | No, if you are refused, you can't ask somewhere else within the Schengen zone.
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01.02.2012, 12:39
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every body thanks for your attention and good consultations.i appreciate this.
what do you think about UN in turkey?can i ask for a help from UN in turkey to solve my problem about swiss permits?
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01.02.2012, 12:46
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YOU are not listening, as an asylum seeker you need to claim asylum in the first "safe haven" you can not choose which country you want to go to after that.
if you want to claim asylum in lithuania and then come to switzerland you are not in extreme need of asylum - you are an asylum tourist.
try greece i hear they are good with asylum seekers.
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01.02.2012, 12:52
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland ( Iranian claimant ) | Quote: |  | | | you are an asylum tourist | | | | | Asylum shopper is the usually used word
Getting a visa on your passport means you have successfully used the protection of your government ( Iran ). To subsequently claim protection from the international community ie asylum is patently absurd, an abuse of process or otherwise manifestly unfounded. Good luck.
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01.02.2012, 12:58
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Go to the UK.
You will be accepted with open arms, given a house to live in rent free, be shown how to claim thousands of £ in benefits, never work another day in your life, invite all your family including distant relatives and live happily ever after.
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01.02.2012, 13:05
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Schengen visa is not valid to the UK. If he found himself there anyway, Dublin rules require him to be expelled within 6 months, owing to a) Possession of a Schengen visa b) arrival from an EU safe haven.
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01.02.2012, 13:06
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland ( Iranian claimant ) | Quote: | |  | | | Schengen visa is not valid to the UK. If he found himself there anyway, Dublin rules require him to be expelled within 6 months, owing to a) Possession of a Schengen visa b) arrival from an EU safe haven. | | | | |
which hardly ever happens
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01.02.2012, 13:17
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland ( Iranian claimant )
Canada would be the best option. Free health insurance, home, and money every month. No need to work, the Canadians will take care of it for you.
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01.02.2012, 13:19
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland ( Iranian claimant ) | Quote: | |  | | | Canada would be the best option. Free health insurance, home, and money every month. No need to work, the Canadians will take care of it for you. | | | | | The UK is closer | 
01.02.2012, 13:21
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland ( Iranian claimant ) | Quote: | |  | | | The UK is closer  | | | | | But Canada is cheaper and the health system is as crap! | | This user would like to thank Nil for this useful post: | | 
01.02.2012, 13:57
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I get groaned at for mentioning the UK yet someone else says 'exactly' the same thing using Canada and doesn't get groaned at | | This user groans at BonBon for this post: | | 
01.02.2012, 13:58
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland ( Iranian claimant )
All the stuff about easy life etc. is really incredibly witty, but maybe you're not aware that a handful of asylum seekers would love to stay in their home country, but would be in grave danger if they did. | Quote: | |  | | | Asylum shopper is the usually used word 
Getting a visa on your passport means you have successfully used the protection of your government ( Iran ). To subsequently claim protection from the international community ie asylum is patently absurd, an abuse of process or otherwise manifestly unfounded. Good luck. | | | | | This is not the case.
Two scenarios.
1. The OP is gay and was being blackmailed in Iran for it. He gets a visa and permission from the Iranian authorities to visit Lithuania. Then the blackmailer reveals the information to the Iranian police. The OP cannot now cannot return to Iran without risking the death sentence.
2. The OP was working in Lithunia, and in his freetime became involved with democracy supporting Iranian expats who campaign against the oppressive Iranian regime. If he returns to Iran, he risks torture and imprisonment.
In either case, he could now legitimately claim asylum.
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01.02.2012, 14:00
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| | | Re: ask for asylum in switzerland ( Iranian claimant ) | Quote: | |  | | | All the stuff about easy life etc. is really incredibly witty, but maybe you're not aware that a handful of asylum seekers would love to stay in their home country, but would be in grave danger if they did.
This is not the case.
Two scenarios.
1. The OP is gay and was being blackmailed in Iran for it. He gets a visa and permission from the Iranian authorities to visit Lithuania. Then the blackmailer reveals the information to the Iranian police. The OP cannot now cannot return to Iran without risking the death sentence.
2. The OP was working in Lithunia, and in his freetime became involved with democracy supporting Iranian expats who campaign against the oppressive Iranian regime. If he returns to Iran, he risks torture and imprisonment.
In either case, he could now legitimately claim asylum. | | | | | Nail on the head!
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01.02.2012, 14:01
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Of whom this may be one. You ever met an asylum seeker, and talked with them. Or do you just read the daily wail?
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