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Old 24.11.2012, 02:07
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

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chances are she/he wont make it on to the plane
Not sure about that. Reading sites that I found via Google (hint, hint) these refugee travel documents are recognized for international travel without visas. Just he needs to make sure he doesn't find a check in agent who doesn't know what it is. There are plenty of travel forums (found through Google) with threads of people who were wrongly refused to board because the agent didn't know the rules.

But again, personally, i'd check with both the airline and the embassy so as not to find myself watching my flight take off without me.
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

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chances are she/he wont make it on to the plane

depends what type of flight ... if its a free ticket home then he/she wont have much choice
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Old 24.11.2012, 02:13
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

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Not sure about that. Reading site that I found via Google (hint, hint) a these refugee travel documents are recognized for international travel without visas. Just he needs to make sure he doesn't find a check in agent who doesn't know what it is. There are plenty of travel forums (found through Google) with threads of people who were wrongly refused to board because the agent didn't know the rules.

But again, personally, i'd check with both the airline and the embassy so as not to find myself watching my flight take off without me.
Nowdays the airlines are responsible for the travelers proper documents .If the traveler is recected at the point of entrey ,they have to fly them back to where they came from
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Old 24.11.2012, 02:15
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Not sure about that. Reading sites that I found via Google (hint, hint) these refugee travel documents are recognized for international travel without visas. Just he needs to make sure he doesn't find a check in agent who doesn't know what it is. There are plenty of travel forums (found through Google) with threads of people who were wrongly refused to board because the agent didn't know the rules.

But again, personally, i'd check with both the airline and the embassy so as not to find myself watching my flight take off without me.
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

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Nowdays the airlines are responsible for the travelers proper documents .If the traveler is recected at the point of entrey ,they have to fly them back to where they came from
Of course. That's not new. His refugee travel document issued by Switzerland is an official and legal travel document and they allow travel to any country that signed the UN agreement without a visa, except their home country.

United has a list of acceptable travel documents. These are included. The problem is that according to a forum person, they were still not allowed on the flight. This is apparently not correct behavior from the airline.

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Old 24.11.2012, 02:24
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

Canada requires a visitor visa in advance in order to enter using a Swiss issued dark blue CTD ( see Prado here ) . You have to apply to the embassy in Paris.


Email any queries to re-paris.im-visitor@international.gc.ca

Visa forms: http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca...=eng&view=dyou

It does not matter to them if you have a Swiss issued B or C permit ( these are good only for use within the Schengen zone for non-EUs ).

Likewise, the UK, USA, NZ, Australia and many others do not grant a visa waiver on account of either your dark blue CTD nor B / C permit.

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they allow travel to any country that signed the UN agreement without a visa
Unfortunately, this is not the case, valid only to Schengen and to Ireland.

Ireland: SI No: 146 of 2011 - Immigration Act 2004 (Visas) Order 2011
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Old 24.11.2012, 02:29
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

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Canada requires a visitor visa in advance in order to enter using a Swiss issued dark blue CTD ( see Prado here ) . You have to apply to the embassy in Paris.

See how much mis-information I can find on Google! I was doing better with my first post, gut feeling. Thanks Jrspet!

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Old 24.11.2012, 11:37
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

When enquiring about visas, you ought to specifically mention the ICAO category in your communications, so as to assist the consulate officer responding to you.

These codes for non-national Travel Documents are:

XXA: Stateless person, as per the 1954 Convention Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons

XXB: Refugee, as per the 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees - Dark Blue document issued in CH ( 5 year validity ) - issued only to B permit recognised refugees

XXC: Refugee, other than defined above - Light Blue document issued in CH ( 1 trip or 1 year validity ) - issued to F permit temporarily admitted persons

XXX: Unspecified nationality

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-readable_passport

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Dear Sir / Madam

I write to enquire about possible visa ( and / or cost ) waivers for a person holding the Category XXB CTD issued bye Federal Refugee Office, Switzerland to enter Canada / UK / USA / NY / Australia / Turkey / Brazil / etc....

I am also in possession of a Canton Geneva issued Permanent Residency card ( the C card ) expiring in 20XX.

I am still / was formerly a XXXXXX ( Sri Lankan, Iraqi, Eritrean etc. ) national.



and so on.

The response will be slightly delayed as they have to check up their internal documentation first and give a measured response to you, so plan head.



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Old 24.11.2012, 16:23
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

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Hello everyone,
I just discovered this website a few minutes ago while googling, and I wanted to ask a question, do I have to apply for a visa to travel to Canada if I have a permit-C?
I would really appreciate answers.
Thank you.
Non of my business i know.But what are you intentions in canada . may be some one in canada can help you
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

Call the Canadian embassy in Paris. The embassy in Bern does not deal with visa issues.
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

Since when did the EF become the source of answering such basic questions when it is clear that the swiss pass is irrelevant as entry card to countries outside europe. If the OP uses google they will find Canada is near the USA which is no where near Europe

It is also not valaid for NZ, Australia, African countries, South America.
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Old 25.11.2012, 15:16
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Since when did the EF become the source of answering such basic questions when it is clear that the swiss pass is irrelevant as entry card to countries outside europe. If the OP uses google they will find Canada is near the USA which is no where near Europe

It is also not valaid for NZ, Australia, African countries, South America.
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

Further to post Nr 26 above:

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Ireland: SI No: 146 of 2011 - Immigration Act 2004 (Visas) Order 2011
Thank you for your enquiry.

I am directed by the Minister for Justice and Equality to refer to your
correspondence of 24/11/2012.

Yes you can travel visa free with a CTD issued by the Swiss authorities.

Kind regards,


Visa Customer Services
Visa Office, Dublin
Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service


So, you can fly to Canada ( and elsewhere ) via Dublin, Republic of Ireland ( cheaper so as to avoid APD fees if via the UK ).

You might also been keen on this thread:

A swiss refugee can reapply for asylum status in another country?
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

These resources might be useful for those with special travel documents when contemplating trips abroad, be it for the short or long term:

European Agreement on the Abolition of Visas for Refugees

Most important are the reservations and exceptions

Council of the European Union Visa Working Party rules 2012 - attached PDF refers.

EATRR ( European Agreement on Transfer of Responsibility for Refugees )

Most important are the reservations and exceptions

To identify various official travel documents, see Prado ( click on CH or any other country ) for features.
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Re: Does it require a visa to travel to Canada with a Permit-C?

For travellers to Canada, rules are changing as of March 15th, 2016. Check out the government's site: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/eta.asp

First paragraph:

Electronic Travel Authorization (eTA)

Starting March 15, 2016, visa-exempt foreign nationals who fly to or transit through Canada will need an Electronic Travel Authorization (eTA). Exceptions include U.S. citizens and travellers with a valid visa.

Entry requirements for other methods of travel (land, sea) have not changed.


P.S. Sorry to resurrect such an ancient thread.

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