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RAV and permit extension

Hi

I would be losing my job due to cost cutting in the company.
So I am looking for new job these days.
And thinking of going to RAV for unemployment benefit.

B permit. Annual renewal. Non EU. Allowed to work for any employer (permit not bounded to an employer). Zurich Canton.

Question is :-

If I have been to RAV then how are the chances for further extension of my permit ?

- I understand, if I do not have new job at the time of next extension then they can deny further extension.

- But, what happens if I have a job before next extension but meanwhile I have been to RAV for unemployment benefits.

RAV said they can not decide about further permit extension.
Migrationsamt said they can only tell at the time of extension.

Does anyone have such experience ? Pls share useful information.

Thank you.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

If you weer contributing towards the unemployment insurance then ideally RAV should be your permit sponsor for 2 years. These 2 years the insurance company will pay you 80% of the lats drawn salary. In case you can not find job during this period, your benifits will come from RAV which will be enough reason to deny any more permit extension.

Talk to them, they are helpful and will give you good advise.

Let me know about your skills and I will try to help in case I am able to. All the best for finding the job !
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Re: RAV and permit extension

If you're getting unemployment benefits then you're okay until your permit runs out. Whether you can get an extension if you're still unemployed by then, the Migration people will decide.

If you get a new job before then, what's the problem? Your unemployment benefit payments will stop and you'll get a salary instead. Permit renewal should be fine; just because you've had unemployment pay shouldn't affect the renewal as you have a new job. Only if you're still unemployed could there be a problem.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

@ kashif : RAV normally gives the benefit for either 11 months only or until the time when permit goes for next extension.

Isn't it ? or I am wrong with this info. Just to be sure.

@ Medea Fleecestealer : Thanks for your answer. I am also having such understanding.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

My understanding is that if you've been working for 12 months or more then it's 400 work days spread over 2 years. At least that's what my OH had when he was made redundant. Obviously with a permit renewal to be decided, you may not have that long.
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My understanding is that if you've been working for 12 months or more then it's 400 work days spread over 2 years. At least that's what my OH had when he was made redundant. Obviously with a permit renewal to be decided, you may not have that long.
18 months needed for 400 days, 12 months usually gives 260 days, but it's age dependent
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Re: RAV and permit extension

The benefits as far as I know are for 18 months from the date of termination. However there is an additional cool in period that RAV has with some Swiss employers. In that case the bench period is divided between RAV and the employer and after that RAV takes up the full responsibility. This additional timeline would be on top of the 18 months period.
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The benefits as far as I know are for 18 months from the date of termination. However there is an additional cool in period that RAV has with some Swiss employers. In that case the bench period is divided between RAV and the employer and after that RAV takes up the full responsibility. This additional timeline would be on top of the 18 months period.
No it's 400 days during the rahemnfrist which is 24 months. The rahemnfrist starts when you stop being paid by your employer, depending on earnings there can be a long wait period before benefits are paid.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

Thanks fatmanfilms.

However is the benefits paid at all. I knew that it is only 80% of the basic pay. No additional compensation components are paid.
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Thanks fatmanfilms.

However is the benefits paid at all. I knew that it is only 80% of the basic pay. No additional compensation components are paid.
If you don't have children it's 70%, & only the salary upto approx. 10500 is insured.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

Anyone know the mechanics of renewing your B-permit while
on RAV benefits ?
Can you take your permit renewal form to RAV to be completed and stamped?
Normally your employer would fill in and stamp the relevant section
of the permit renewal form.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

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Anyone know the mechanics of renewing your B-permit while
on RAV benefits ?
Can you take your permit renewal form to RAV to be completed and stamped?
Normally your employer would fill in and stamp the relevant section
of the permit renewal form.
Previous posters with an EU passport have not had an issue, non EU it seems to vary.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

For non-EU the federal website says you should have no problem getting an extension while on RAV but things have changed lately and it doesn't seem that anyone is getting an extension.
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Re: RAV and permit extension

Correction. They have updated the website over the new year. The page that used to say that while on RAV you were likely to get renewed is gone: http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...willigung.html

New page is as follows: https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm...gehoerige.html
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Re: RAV and permit extension

I am non/EU and been employed by more than one company in Switzerland,so my permit is definitely not attached to an employer/contract.

Has anybody been through the permit renewal procedure via RAV?
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Correction. They have updated the website over the new year. The page that used to say that while on RAV you were likely to get renewed is gone: http://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm/...willigung.html

New page is as follows: https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/bfm...gehoerige.html
Can't see anything specific about RAV and permit renewal though. Can you elaborate or provide a link?
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Re: RAV and permit extension

MarkH, Medea Fleecestealer,
Did you get extension through RAV?
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Re: RAV and permit extension

Any updates here ? About permit extension procedure by RAV
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