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Re: naturalization take 2-3 years in Zurich?

The attached document says 2 years as well.

http://www.gaz.zh.ch/internet/justiz...rgerungen.html is the source.
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Old 26.01.2015, 17:22
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This is a very helpful thread.

I saw info on the BFM website which says required stay for Zurich is at least 2 uninterrupted years in the community of prospective naturalisation.

The link is https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...tzfristen.html.

I do not know what this 2 years means then as a document which is attached in this thread says 6 years continuous stay in Zurich city.

It means you need 2 years residence in Zurich canton, but also 6 years in Zurich city. So if you've lived in Zurich city for 6 years, you've met the 2 year cantonal requirement.
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It means you need 2 years residence in Zurich canton, but also 6 years in Zurich city. So if you've lived in Zurich city for 6 years, you've met the 2 year cantonal requirement.
This means we should have some gemeinde/city in Kanton Zurich who have only 2 years stay requirement to apply for citizenship. Wherever I know the minimum is 4 years - like Dietikon and Wallisellen for example. Does anyone know any gemeinde/city in Kanton Zurich needing only 2 years stay requirement same as the cantonal requirement ?
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Re: naturalization take 2-3 years in Zurich?

I shouldn't think there are any. The Swiss take naturalisation by foreigners seriously and would expect you to live for several years in their gemeinde. Two years seems too short to me at that level. There may be some gemeindes with that low a requirement, but you'd probably have to check with each one in the canton to find out. Or possibly the cantonal migration office could tell you.

Remember though that Zurich canton requires you to also have a C permit and a certain level of German language fluency as part of the application process. A C permit can be applied for after being in Switzerland for 5 years if you're an EU national, but the wait is 10 years if you're not - unless you apply under the VINTA system.

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I shouldn't think there are any. The Swiss take naturalisation by foreigners seriously and would expect you to live for several years in their gemeinde. Two years seems too short to me at that level. There may be some gemeindes with that low a requirement, but you'd probably have to check with each one in the canton to find out. Or possibly the cantonal migration office could tell you.

Remember though that Zurich canton requires you to also have a C permit and a certain level of German language fluency as part of the application process. A C permit can be applied for after being in Switzerland for 5 years if you're an EU national, but the wait is 10 years if you're not - unless you apply under the VINTA system.

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Thanks a ton for that info. IMHO the process is way too long. I have a C permit - am non EU which means I have been here for 10 years now. I moved to a new gemeinde last year as I was not aware of this gemeinde stay requirement. Now I learn I can only apply after 4 years. I used to think you need to stay in the country for 12 years to apply. This whole gemeinde stay requirement is just a way to make the process tougher for people to apply.
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Thanks a ton for that info. IMHO the process is way too long. I have a C permit - am non EU which means I have been here for 10 years now. I moved to a new gemeinde last year as I was not aware of this gemeinde stay requirement. Now I learn I can only apply after 4 years. I used to think you need to stay in the country for 12 years to apply. This whole gemeinde stay requirement is just a way to make the process tougher for people to apply.
Well, itīs up to the country to decide and they can make it as easy or difficult as they wish.
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Thanks a ton for that info. IMHO the process is way too long. I have a C permit - am non EU which means I have been here for 10 years now. I moved to a new gemeinde last year as I was not aware of this gemeinde stay requirement. Now I learn I can only apply after 4 years. I used to think you need to stay in the country for 12 years to apply. This whole gemeinde stay requirement is just a way to make the process tougher for people to apply.
Move back to your old Gemeinde, problem solved.

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Thanks a ton for that info. IMHO the process is way too long. I have a C permit - am non EU which means I have been here for 10 years now. I moved to a new gemeinde last year as I was not aware of this gemeinde stay requirement. Now I learn I can only apply after 4 years. I used to think you need to stay in the country for 12 years to apply. This whole gemeinde stay requirement is just a way to make the process tougher for people to apply.
A friend of mine (EU) was born here, has lived here for almost 42 years and is still on a C permit, as by coincidence, him moving communes always happened shortly before the 5 year mark. He doesn't care the slightest as a C gives him no disadvantages, or so he says.

Nothing you can do. Accept it or move back. A quick google search would have clarified the rules including the 5-year-in-the-same-commune one - too bad you didn't know, but that's hardly Switzerland's fault.
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Thanks a ton for that info. IMHO the process is way too long. I have a C permit - am non EU which means I have been here for 10 years now. I moved to a new gemeinde last year as I was not aware of this gemeinde stay requirement. Now I learn I can only apply after 4 years. I used to think you need to stay in the country for 12 years to apply. This whole gemeinde stay requirement is just a way to make the process tougher for people to apply.
I can understand how the communal residence requirement could seem like just one more hoop to jump through -- and, on the face of it, a rather unreasonable one, since comparable requirements for naturalization presumably do not exist in most other countries -- but of course the whole Swiss concept of citizenship is that you are a citizen of the Confederation because you are a citizen of your canton because you are a citizen of your commune. So, before you can become Swiss, you must become a citizen of your home community. This isn't the way it works elsewhere, and it must certainly seem unfair if you have been living in and contributing to Switzerland for years but happen to have moved recently, but there is a logic behind it.
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